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Tibermach

Ladder Map Pool Changes - extension?

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So did everyone who plays the ladder get to vote? 

 

how many who voted for vet maps actually play the ladder?

 

how long was the last topic/vote open for? 

 

how many people who play the ladder knew of this?

 

p.s. its been a little more fun this month with more people taking part and having the exposure on the game list for ranked match... best idea yet.

 

 

 

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theyre unwilling to fix unit behavior bugs but are perfectly fine with bastardizing all of the official maps. im glad the game is already dead regardless of the 50 players still on it. all they did was make giant tiberium blobs all over the maps or add train tracks surrounding unkillable weed fields. they are really dumb.

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i thought they said that the new changes and maps would be in effect this week but i dont see any changes

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On 6/19/2019 at 11:13 AM, TRZ said:

i thought they said that the new changes and maps would be in effect this week but i dont see any changes

Sorry I got very busy I should be able to get to it on Saturday.

 

On 6/19/2019 at 2:25 AM, Tibermach said:

how many people who play the ladder knew of this?

It got 25 votes including almost everyone in the top 10.

When we talked, the only map you wanted was a wildcard map that could be any WW map. If you'd like to list 4 other maps here I could incorporate them.

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Here's the list I've put together from everyone's picks:

Terrace TL Fix - Any Spawn - e1bf78bdb64b5bb3961004145f3a55d6bd899bee
Terrace BR vs BL - 3 v 2 - e1bf78bdb64b5bb3961004145f3a55d6bd899bee
Forest Fires - Any Spawn - 759904e072762066195aa234f52ac807d0fd7d38
Crater - Any Spawn - 1dc4ba19f22d502c7e643a1e22833a2cafe3caab
Tiberium Garden Redux - Any Spawn - 072bac8a58e34540ed5cb281613fb9ed979cd9fc
Pit or Plateau - Any Spawn - 417cc341a0e2b4dfe0f8d375743cb9502d2403e8
River Runs Near it - Any Spawn - a876cb4aa93c02b2e3643122464a60cf838abd71
Hidden Valley - 4 vs 3 - 98c0fb0f9841a8fcc39da73ec53d98467852468a
Pentagram - Any Spawn - dacd37e40630f010521fa7c559a89febcb3f73a6
Xcapades - Any Spawn - 28f5fc7fdf91af940a05d35dc9a8224cd7c4a07c
Tactical - 2 v 1 - a399692bf1919e37674cf969864ef15ad6839c12

Terrace - Vet - Any Spawn - 658555ca71c4f36c3887256359a249a18404ecf7
Terrace BR vs BL - Vet - 3 v 2 - 658555ca71c4f36c3887256359a249a18404ecf7
The Pit Vet - Any Spawn - a06996e1ef13c1183f352f066bbe897261baa114
Tunnel Training - Vet - Any Spawn - 89ee40e494ffd3f210d97623deaa11b0694935f9
Super Bridgehead Redux - Vet - Any Spawn - 16241741cb2510fe32e8a4de3d6e4754f03d0160
Grand Canyon - Vet Any Spawn - 27988dc6c264bce350f53ed0ee2257391e3b21c0
Tiberium Forest - Vet - Any Spawn - ffb54f5856e2a58b56a65adfab4223a3d34ca41d
Jungle Wars - Vet - Any Spawn - 90dce2d446f7bd82b20536930345430cdfa3559e
Tournament Rift - Vet - Any Spawn - 01b26bd962404c89d9cf1f71c8f2b83836f03a2c


Dueling Islands - Vet - Firestorm - Any Spawn - 15005949dc958f95ee8e9c07d4b0e1431e9094ba
They All Float - Firestorm - Any Spawn - 9c20d66f951e720540f823fa311d61aa398e1518
Tiers Of Sorrow - Firestorm - Any Spawn - 161ef72c45e40be8c3d1c907643b9d677a7b6350

Giants Of War [6] - Any Spawn - 945ca408eaf637a33d100ec5ccb0971dc66687d4
BBG [4] - Any Spawn -
Grays 3v3 - Any Spawn - 46fdae048551153753943cbaa74a6efec59f2531
GSO - Any Spawn -

There will be either 7  to 12 rejections allowed (Just enough to force people to play on some maps out of their comfort zone). I'll probably install them tomorrow.

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well theres only 8 different people in the top ten, so almost all of them is probably 6 or 7... then the rest who voted dont actually play the ranked? 

seems fair to me.

 

nah i knew what will be will be with the powers that be and all that, just think its putting more people off it than onto it with such rare maps... tbf i dont want any of the bs vet maps but if there are some who do then fine put some in but the lack of original stuff is killing it a bit for me and others who simply prefer the originals.  Its nice to see some originals in the list but still lacking considering the choice there used to be... without all this seeming control i dont know why we cant just have all the maps... a random ww map is the closest thing to getting choice of all original...

 

4 other maps 

- Caseys Canyon

-cliffs of insanity

-Storms

-Hot Springs

 

Unless anyone else wants to add a couple other originals in exchange for a couple of these that's cool too.....

 

or River Raid FS map 

Tiers of Sorrow

Narrow River

They All Float

 

plenty of variety...

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are you people drunk or just noobs? why would you put terrace BL vs BR in it and on top of that a VET and non vet version? its just plain stupid. So people can waste their  "reject" those since they clearly in favor of BL.

 

Since we are at it, can you fix Caseys Canyon, what a SHIT map. You click units and they dont respond or go where you tell them to go. I made a buggy and it just sits in base....

 

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lol whoever decided to put bl vs br in a laddder competition was a complete moron. obv bl has 100x the advantage. 

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BTW: why is there firestorm setting in tiberian sun ladder games ? -_-

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BL vs BR has far less advantage given to BL than the standard cross-spawns....regardless of the distance between BR/BL, BR has more main tiberium than any other spot, has the fastest expansion to both it's first exp and the middle, and is more guarded via the cliff. Are you really complaining about balance on terrace when BR vs BL/TR vs TL are the most "fair" ways to play it. As much as I appreciate the challenge of playing from any disadvantaged position on terrace, this is an asinine argument, when everyone has known since TS's inception that this is not a balanced map.

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It doesn't matter how much TIB is available in BL vs BR. The fact is, you have blue TIB in BL, so you will have the power /cash to be much more aggressive offensive wise, or expanding wise. Blue TIB just give more benefits.  It is really stupid to have a BL vs BR fight on terrace, where it sould be cross fights. 

I think BR vs TL is fair, as TL has more cover if un-scouted, where BR is more exposed but has easier to expand. That said, it would be cross fights and not straight lines.

Besides that, take 2 good players, the  BL will crush the  BR player.

 

 

 

 

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BL vs BR is still more fair than cross positions. TL vs BR is highly unbalanced as soon as TL attempts to expand to LM, the distance from TL to even it's first expansion outside the cliff is massive in comparison, and going from LM to the middle is again a much further distance. Horizontal spawns are THE most fair way to play terr and a welcome change to how 1v1 is done on the map for ladder.

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Well i disagree. But if want to 1v1 where i got BL and you got BR, ill win 10/10.

Westwood did not attend for a side-by side on 1v1, that's why you always start cross.

That said, i rejected that map with those positions. I doubt any good players will play those positions, so if you do, you'll only face lesser skilled players.

Humble we need 1-2 more rejects in the pile of maps, and the firestorm maps should have "firestorm settings" disabled since we are playing TS.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Mola said:

Well i disagree. But if want to 1v1 where i got BL and you got BR, ill win 10/10.

Westwood did not attend for a side-by side on 1v1, that's why you always start cross.

That said, i rejected that map with those positions. I doubt any good players will play those positions, so if you do, you'll only face lesser skilled players.

Humble we need 1-2 more rejects in the pile of maps, and the firestorm maps should have "firestorm settings" disabled since we are playing TS.

 

 

Def. not the case lol. Feel free to test that theory with me, I'm on today.

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Post video! Lol bl vs br sux

So much quicker to get to bottom right and you can cross bottom right so easily GDI or nod when your bottom left

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All the vet maps also have all the cliff glitches and other stuff fixed.  Any non vet maps I can't speak for and don't care about.  For 100$ an hour and a life-time supply of Chipotle ill fix the other verisons NP EZ.

 

@dkeeton, once u upload the updated art file, the firestorm maps will have the blue crystal trees without firestorm enabled, I think that would be the best solution since the Firestorm settings are pretty rough compared to original.  No inf for selling buildings makes inf rushes even more OP, and disruptors are extra fast, etc.

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Can we make it to where people can't have more than x number of names on the ladder per month? That way people can't be trying to snipe points off others using smurf logs, instead of having to risk their logs with high numbers of points.

 

 

Also, we need to relabel these airfix maps, because i just died thinking it was TL VS BR, when in fact it was BL vs BR. These names have to be redone...

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On 6/19/2019 at 11:04 AM, 9LivesCatFood said:

theyre unwilling to fix unit behavior bugs but are perfectly fine with bastardizing all of the official maps. im glad the game is already dead regardless of the 50 players still on it. all they did was make giant tiberium blobs all over the maps or add train tracks surrounding unkillable weed fields. they are really dumb.

Sorry for not hold back progress/improvement for the sake of a single opinion. 

Quit hating on the forest fires remake. It’s superior in every aspect. 

It would be better to have 100 new players that can play a game that makes sense than keeping the 2 or 3 salty vets that hate everything for no logical reason.

 

PS. None of this shit matters because nobody is going to play ladder next month. Nobody would have even played this month if I didn’t stir up commotion in the first week.

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might be good idea to get automatic log in enabled for ranked matches so as soon as you come online the box will appear and you just click search for match then leave it in the background, then its just a case of declining any matches that popup? is that possible?

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