I like the idea, but there has to be something more to it. Maybe like extra small - everyone starts in the same center and there are 4 "areas" right next to it, so when you see 3 ppl are drivin in the same direction you choose the other etc. Then you can think about expanding the map with a timer or sth like this. Because if you do it like you said the one with the noob at start has a huge advantage and this could be fun killing. You could also think about some "neutral" units between both, so this will delay a too simple and early rush a bit (and help noobs a little). To me FFA is always about the interplay with everyone, so it's a bit like a diplomacy game. You have to worry about pulling aggro and stuff. Because of that I like to keep the terrain always open to everyone. Or at a certain point the barriers to all others are opened ( like 8 ppl on the corners in 4 seperated areas with very low ressources and after a certain time the central area gets accessible with gems and stuff). Just thinking loud 😉

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The thing is I want to have different variants, f.e. not all players want to have balances. It is easier with the method you mentioned, but I don't want two versions of each map. The other thing is : When QM comes, custom maps won't be playable I suggest. Can you edit crate rates etc in a map file?

I just talked to CCP84 - he was fine with an edit with no tech buildings. [4] storm(cccp84 no tech buldings edit).map

The vast majority of games I play are FFA's. I have to say - I host them myself. It didn't happen to me a single time that two players are obviously allied. It often comes to 2v1 situations, which is normal in FFA. But then it switches again. I know that many players can't deal with 2v1 and start flaming. But I also know that there are some trolls who open their room and do the nasty tactics you mentioned. Can't confirm, that they are the majority.

What about a fundraising campaign for the programmers with different goals for the money raised. I would spend some money. I'm sure many players would. To give something back to the hard work necessary to make things happen.

Especially the spy topic is a common one in FFA setups. I did maps with a balance (gave soviets spy's too). But I still think it's a good thing, you can't have several variants of each map f.e.. Regarding to crates - can you adjust them in a map file? Didn't know that. But again it's a common topic many ppl like to adjust on each map. With patriot SAM balance I'm kind of with you, but I still think it's a good thing to think about how to prevent rocketeer imbalance (especially in FFA setups, not in 1v1 etc.) Yuri BF is considered imba in every setup IMHO.

I know @mustache. But it's still an issue for a patch IMHO.

I like the points you make. We are different kinds of players, you are more pro/competetive player so you care more about ladders n stuff. I think the first seven point are important for many players, but not me personally. For me point 8 and 10 are most important. I opened a similiar thread where I prefered the variant, that a spy can't infiltrate barracks and war factory . Because money stealing, gap scouting, radar sabotage and power sabotage are fine for me. Super units like chrono commando are a matter of taste IMHO. I also feel like there's a need for a ping icon next to the player because as a host I don't always watch the incoming players ping and it's messy to look it up when a lot of chat happens. Also an icon for players with different game files is important IMHO.

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Hey there, First of all - I wish everyone a happy new year. I made a poll with a wishlist / feature request for the next patch (or even the next patches). Unfortunately I can't make a poll where everyone can add options. So I will add them manually, when you type them in this thread. Best wishes, cy

Thanks for your answer ! I also got crashes from your files which I downloaded with no final alert in between and tried it with the latest YR Client in skirmish mode. I will get back to this on a later time.

Ty, did so. Maybe it would be a nice feature in the sound settings of a future patch.

Is it possible to deactivate the player-voices on the F buttons?

EUROPE FFA Balanced (added little balances and a map preview) Major Balances : Added soviet spy Ivan can swim Better patriot SAM against mass rocketeer Minor Balances : France Grand Cannon Build Limit 5 Boomer Tech 3 Cuba has desolator (terrorist removed to add spy) [4] europe ffa.map Edit: Disabled Grinders ability to sell units to prevent players from clone cheating