Frz, since you want to suddenly be a foul little hobbit, I'll play: you've never been anything more than "okay" in the entirety of TS, nor will you, even after me attempting to help you approximately a year and a half ago, which is astounding since you're "so much smarter" than I. The ONLY time I can even recall losing to you in any 1v1 was on a map I had played less than 3 times, which was tournament rift, as nod, not that any of these fucking anecdotal game stories from anybody mean anything whatsoever, since I'm willing and able to demonstrate my abilities vs ANYBODY on this game as both factions and on any map.    Aside from the fact that there are barely any even decent players left, which makes all of these lists cringeworthy, it's really hilarious to me how extremely biased and subjective they are based on if the person likes someone or not. Very few are actually able to legitimately give an opinion based on observation, rather than an emotional perspective, but this doesn't come as a surprise. There are fewer than 6 players that even know what to do in a long game anymore, which by the way takes far more skill, patience, and understanding of the game than any 5-10 min all out balls-to-the-wall ko attempt before expanding. So regardless of whether any of you find it "boring", the fact is that it requires far more macro and awareness, as well as actual strategy, as opposed to controlling a few units and relying on early game surprise. There's just so much more to fucking do AT THE SAME TIME and know how to do: watching your harvs so they're not being hunted while attacking this section of your opponent's base, controlling your cash flow, planning when the most opportune time to use your emp is/where to use it, controlling this group of units over here while doing so with others in another location, continuing to expand to the next patch, middlefighting [which is a whole beast in itself], knowing how to control the tib patches or take control of them from your opponent, all of these among many others, along with the sheer speed, attention, planning, and skill it takes to do all of these simultaneously. That's why the best players on other similar games such as Starcraft aren't the constant cheesers, they're the ones with strong mechanics and can anticipate their opponent and play the game at any point in its duration. Players that are able to transition from short game to a solid long game are impressive, and there are almost NONE of those left. Aphrodlte was a major twat, but he was able to do ridiculous rushes and transition into a very strong long game. The 3 most notable best players in TS history after the meta was established and the game was figured out were all econ-based players- Mega, Schaf, and kapa. If people maybe took the time to actually learn how to play long game (especially since I'm always willing to teach others), they might find out how intense and enjoyable it actually is. This is the last I'll say on this topic.

Probs say today top ten looks something like this, players who can play gdi and nod equally as good on tezz short/long game and 1v1/2v2 +other maps ww and mods nearer the top, also trying to account for game time somehow... so to my limited knowledge right now as follows:   Trz I0nst0rm Netteine Weaponx C0rps Sexpro NME Humble Wuss I suppose?  Tigerr     I might have missed somethings I'm sure someone will let me know if I'm wide off the mark... I may reconsider..        

yourself, and the other 3 you mentioned are as you say really, really good at it. Think I am going to get a TS tattoo with my nick..    

lol ive missed years of playing time so thats not quiet right.  Also mostly my games dont go that long... long games are mostly boring.. i dont play game after game after game either.. so more fake news from black... probs have to say Blue is top player right now all considering ... come the furthest in the shortest amount of time  Also to be fair. i never was a modder in any way. i play the odd mod map now and again.  Altho this time round i have gotten to enjoy GSO and Blast from the Past, the only mods i will play as much as WW given the chance.  Play a giants when lobby is quiet or really bored.  otherwise its a quick blast on Red Alert!