DarkVen9109 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 As the name suggest. I'm currently creating a mod and I took the C&C 95 render of Med and Light Tank and suddenly it has this weird color I can't change even if I change it I have a picture to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 LOL. That's because the remap range from C&C SHP files isn't the same as RA. You need to convert them to Red Alert palette to make them work correctly. A similar bug happens with Red Alert's 'wooden' crate. You'll notice it has exactly the same colour. That's because it was copied from C&C1 instead of converted correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen262 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Just take the units from Red Dawn. They are C&C 95 render coverted to RA1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVen9109 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Just take the units from Red Dawn. They are C&C 95 render coverted to RA1. Didn't know how you did this but ok. I'll take the RD ones so I can only work with cameos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Well, you kinda need to know the whole theory behind colour palettes and palette-index-only sprite graphics to get this -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen262 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 If you put the purppals-xcc.mix into your RA1 folder that I sent to you do the below in XCC Mixer 1: Go to View - Palet - RedAlert - ccpwconv.pal 1a: Go to View - Palet and make sure that "Use for conversion" is check marked. 2: Now go to the C&C 95 unit/building you want to convert and Copy as PCX. 3: Go to View - Palet - RedAlert - raprconv.pal 4: The unit/building you Copy as PCX will be in the "second file browser position" as PCXes. 5: Go to unit/building 000.pcx and Copy as SHP 6: In the "second file browser position" you will see unit/building.shp It now it will be in the RA color format. Updated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVen9109 Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 I did everything and still not working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Umm, Alien, you kinda missed the step of actually opening the frames in an image editor and loading the new palette into them. Copying pcx to SHP is completely unaffected by what palette you got selected. You NEED to open the images in an image editor and load the RA purple palette into them, matching nearest colour. Also, the pcx files will NOT end up in your XCC folder, they'll end up in whatever folder you choose as second file browser position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen262 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I did everything and still not working I may have left something out. Go to View than Palet and make sure that "Use for conversion" is check marked. I updated my past post to add this. When you use the ccpwconv.pal The black background and yellow remap will be purple when viewing C&C95 shps. When you Copy as PCX It sould put out all frames of the shp In the "second file browser position" Now open one of those frames and make sure it looks the same as it did in XCC Mixer, purple background and remap. If it is Go to step 3 Umm, Alien, you kinda missed the step of actually opening the frames in an image editor and loading the new palette into them. Copying pcx to SHP is completely unaffected by what palette you got selected. You NEED to open the images in an image editor and load the RA purple palette into them, matching nearest colour. Also, the pcx files will NOT end up in your XCC folder, they'll end up in whatever folder you choose as second file browser position. You can use XCC mixer to convet all of the frames at once. First purppals-xcc.mix. This is purple palette that XCC mixer can use. I placed it in my RA1 folder http://www.mediafire.com/?39vbp47g887ttuc When you Copy as PCX all of the PCXes will have what ever palette you were using with XCC Mixer saved in them. When you Copy as PCX with the ccpwconv.pal (For C&C95) than Copy as SHP with the raprconv.pal (For RA1) XCC Mixer will do the matching nearest colour for you. No need for any image editor. I have never messed with "second file browser position" I've hidden that window since 1999 and left it that way. All my Copy as *BLANK* go to my XCC Folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 That's just because you never changed it from its default location. The fun part is that the copying works BOTH WAYS, meaning you can do your conversion much quicker: -Set the palette to ccprconv.pal -copy the SHP as PCX, into whatever location you got in the second file browser -Check "Use for conversion" -Set the palette to raprconv.pal -Right click on the first PCX of the range (number 0000) in the second file browser, and copy as SHP, and it'll end up back in the location of the first file browser You just have to make sure the side you try to copy TO doesn't have a mixfile open. You can't put conversion results straight into mixfiles using the Copy functions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen262 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I'm fine with how it is. It's nice to know that every thing is going to one place. This way I can't lose any thing. :laugh: That should work just fine do do the convert. I haven't uncheck the "Use for conversion" since 2001ish. I kinda forgot about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVen9109 Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 I finally get to worked my new renders of my Med and Light Tanks. Thanks for the reminder and update Nyer and Allen :laugh:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I do WAY too many conversions on custom palettes I don't have in XCC to WANT to enable that "Use for conversion" option, Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVen9109 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 I have one question. Will I do the same to C&C95 if I'm going to replace a unit or infantry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen262 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Put a RA1 building/unit into C&C95? Yes. Just start with the raprconv.pal and end with ccprconv.pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVen9109 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Way to go Al! Now I can make the infantries big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Hah! That won't work so easily. C&C infantry have a ton more frames than RA1 infantry. You have to make the frame sequences match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVen9109 Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 C&C infantry have a ton more frames than RA1 infantry LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Nyerguds sneakily abuses mod powers to shut up the smug bastard Hm? Yes. C&C infantry does have more frames than RA1 infantry :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen262 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I saw it too but let it go..... I know better. Maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVen9109 Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 U know even better than that Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen262 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I let it go. I knew you would see it and say something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I have no idea what you are all arguing about :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVen9109 Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 The making of Big Infantry for C&C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Ew. Why would you even WANT that? Also, this'll work better, probably: It's a resize guide pic I made ages ago. The blue area is what to take as final image. The purple is what to stretch it to. I'm sure there are programs around to do automatic bulk resizes like that on hundreds of frames. Heck, I think RAD tools can do it, just by getting a bit creative with the cropping settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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