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[Campaign] Discovert Operations for Tiberian Dawn

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Hey Guys!

Here is the long expected second part of the discovert ops campaign.

I still have to change a lot of things here, so enjoy Discovert Ops for Red Alert until I've updated this campaign someday in future...

The set for RA is finished so far while the C&C camapign still need a lot of fixes and changes.

I plan to finish the Discovert Operations to a trilogy with a short campaign for TS one far day - One campaign spread over 3 games!

 

Discovert Ops for C&C will continue the storyline of the RA1 addon. The Brotherhood of Nod is believed to be destroyed and the C.U.B.E. special forces are dissolved.

Years later Nod appears again and YOU, old veteran will reunite C.U.B.E. and fight again against Nod. C.U.B.E. still will be underfinanced and use both GDI and hijacked Nod equipment.

This addon consists of 10 singleplayer missions + bonus stuff, and some multiplayer maps.

I also created a skirmish multiplayer mode where the AI players have a small base and will build units.

 

For technical reasons, don't expect such a detailed scripting and merciless AI enemy as in DO for red alert, but I did my best!

 

Mirrors:

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Enjoy and give a Feedback!

 

Impressions:

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Things to fix:

scg61

- works fine when I remember

scg62

- AI attacks too early (attacks begin before commando reaches the base, so base reveals to early)

- AI get stuck in base sometimes

- AI builds lot of infantry without attacking

- reinforces are incomplete or didn't arrive

- one of the helicopters is shot down sometimes (but that's not critical)

- remove gunboats

scg63

- works fine more or less

- aircraft is set to goodguy because it won't appear when set to badguy

- the GDI apc was originally a bug, but I want to keep it (so it keeps the airplanes away from player units)

scg64

- I want to completely rebuild this mission

scg65

- not sure, probably AI stuff. have to replay this once more

scg66

- this was a Nod mission initially but I think I'll keep the sides as they are.

- Not sure if I want to keep the conyard for the player

- the boat of the enemy doesn't attack

- AI doesn't do anything

scg67

- this is a mixed tech mission, I want to change that in straight GDI vs Nod

- Infantry from the small right base don't attack

- bomb planes don't attack

- AI is too weak

scg68

- is mixed tech, not sure if I want to keep this

- probably AI problems

- I have to replay this once more

scg69

- works fine, but have to replay this once more; I remember it was incredible hard

scg70

- AI problems - he doesn't attack, only produces; opponent here has to be stronger etc...

- Is mixed tech, I want this mission as an epic battle where both sides have the full equipment

 

generally:

- AI improvements

- remove most of the visceroids and dinosaurs as they belong to no side, I'll use them as rogue units only (but still more close to the enemy's side)

- make a coherent storyline

- use the new radar icon (see RA-DO thread)

 

Edited by Messiah

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I'm personally not a fan of mixed tech missions... Does this use Multi3 as player side with RadarLogo=GDI set in the mission files, or does it use Goodguy with the colour scheme changed?

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It's Goodguy with changed color scheme or in one case Badguy with both changed.

 

I consider to make a unique radar logo someday for all DO campaigns, basing on the badge of the Green Berets.

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Neat :)

 

I saw the mixed tech in the first screenshot, and just wondered if you actually used Multi3 and allowed the player to use the full 2-side tech tree.

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So I'm gonna leave my way-too-late feedback on these missions while I play them, I've tried the first 3 and here's my take on this

scg61 is borderline impossible but you might make it if you rush trough and kill the agent with alot of luck, not that fun imo.

scg62 is very interesting, the gunboats prove a challenge but I managed to take them out, this mission might have been impossible if the enemy didn't attack base early because then you can progress. Very fun mission with a little twist at the end when you can see trough some bumbs like the enemy stocking up troops without attacking.

scg63 is litteraly impossible, there's nothing you can do, needs quite some re-work, like if you could bring the 2 groups together somehow it would still have been challenging but this is just ridiculous - it's not possible to infiltrate the base and destroy the biolabs with what your get.

scg64 isn't actually that bad, it's unique and I like that it's so diverse to take on an army of dino's while also having a NOD base to destroy. A few bugs tho are that there's a shortcut into the big tiberium field that is bugged and most of the time you can't move anything trough it, they will just go forth and back in an endless circle, there's not really a proper way to lead the dino's into the enemy base so I took them out before I began on the base. And I haven't found a wintrigger!

scg65 I think this one largely works as it should, only thing I can think of is that when you find your base sometimes your reinforcements spawn at the westmost NOD outpost and they will get killed. I also don't really like the random 2 Apache's attacking your northmost asset (Guard Tower) but that's just me personally. For the rest, I liked this mission, it's a nice challenge having to take on the enemy with no Weapons Factory until you find the old base, but I didn't really need it anymore after that :D

scg66 I think this mission is pretty fine overall, AI doesn't do much tho but if you could get that working I think it's a challenging enough mission if you keep the conyard. Those gun turrets are very well placed and makes it very hard if you want to attack them with vehicles.

scg67 make sure you put a losetrigger if you destroy the temple or else you can't win anymore. I also had to manually control my harvesters trough the entire mission because of the placing of the tiberium fields, but for the rest I liked it.

scg68 god this mission looks good on XCC, but I can't do it, the attacking Orca's just make it too damn hard, combine that with the chopper landing with Chem Warriors even though they don't move, I'm gonna try this once more but just because it looks so good on paper. Umm... now that I played and established a base... How am I suposed to get to the base or other islands? Perhaps I could've ordered a Chinook Transport if I didn't destroy the helipad but there's no way you can take on the enemy with just infantry..

scg69 this mission will only become possible if you only have to take out the Harvesters and/or Refinery's.

scg70 tbh this must be a joke, the enemy attacks instantly and there is nothing you can do to prevent them from destroying your mobile HQ.

The wild-west missions are pretty funny, perhaps enemy can be set to attack the village in the first one.

Harvester hunting old version is also a decent little mission, I can't say there's much wrong with it in comparison to the new one :D

Hard landing is a good mission as well - hard in the beginning and fairly medium-ish for the rest. It could use a bit of polishing though; the beginning is indeed very hard and it's difficult to get tibirium at the start, but I think it's a good idea to let the enemy base produce units that attack after a set time needed for the player to set up a base. Perhaps let the base produce those Flamethrowers, Chem Warriors + Flame Tank instead of letting them spawn from outside the map as I think that'd be a better solution in this case. There's also a landing craft with some Grenadiers and Minigunners at the start that gets stuck for the rest of the game together with it's units. I think the Apache and the Orca that spawn sometimes are a keep tho, as they actually go to the enemy helipad to rearm and go to function as forward base defense instead of dropping ordinance and being useless from then on.

Freezing death II: fun short mission with 2 armies clashing, very easy 10000 score XD

La Suprise du Chef crashes the game about 10 minutes in...

Desert Fox: when playing on my resolution (1024x768) the right side of the map where you can't go is visibilly unfinished and I found no win or lose trigger, a lot of the missions here don't have a losetrigger btw but I don't see it as a huge problem because I'd kinda understand that anyways if I lost everything.

Dark Forest: nothing much to say here, looks to work great!

 

So this is my feedback on everything in here, I sure hope it helps you with polishing those missions o7

Edited by Grove4life5
I edit along playing these missions.

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Cool, someone plays my missions ;)

 

I never managed the team types of scg62 attacking properly. I still work on it, see further posts here https://forums.cncnet.org/topic/4550-tiberian-dawn-the-scavengers-revenge/ about that issue. It's quite a mess of work, especially when you haven't looked in some missions since at least 15 years ...

Try this mission.

 

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Well, I belive that's all I can tell for this pack, I don't have any kind of experience in making missions but I think it's good to get feedback from a player's POV.

Edited by Grove4life5

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