[DiET]: Veganism - (Kidney) Beans cause bloating

[SiRaLeX]

Hello dear CnCNet,

 

In particular I'd like to address this to PrEP. Since I know that he's a vegan and beans are an integral component of VEGAiNiSM.

 

First off, I'm aware that a normal human cannot really digest beans (I'm not going to go into any detail here).

 

Well, I've recently started eating [kidney] beans again (which I have kinda stopped eating like 1 year ago for this same reason).

 

Anyways, I used to absolutely love beans and I still do. They taste great alone or in greater dishes.

 

But every time I eat beans they are causing me immense bloating and intestinal gas to the point where it's extremely unpleasant.

 

So my question to you all is:

 

- Do you have the same reaction?

- What do you do, can you even do anything meaningful to combat it?

- Should I stop eating beans?

 

:picsnow:

 

Greetings,

SiRaLeX

 

 

[X3M]

Just eat less? It could be that they cause too much gas. But less beans will cause less gas. Something along those lines.

 

I got the same problem with chicory.

Used to eat like about 5 leaves, but these days only 1 will not cause trouble. If I eat 2, the very next day, my body makes a 90 degree figure once the pain starts.

 

I guess it is about balance of the diet.

Does eating 1 bean cause trouble? If so, then you have no choice but to stop.

 

[SiRaLeX]

Thanks for your reply and wise words, X3M.

 

I guess I'm overeating, but it's hard not to overeat beans as they're tasty and especially if they're part of a chilli.

 

I've never really tried eating only 1 bean, but if I recall correctly eating only a few beans that are part of a salad won't cause much of a trouble.

 

What I was after, though, is someone telling me about their experiences with stuff like Beano: http://www.beanogas.com/ (hence me asking about what you can do, if anything, to combat it)

[X3M]

Listen to your body first.

If your body reacts to something in an abnormal way with symptoms. Than it isn't really healthy.

If you take pills or whatever to take away the symptoms. Not only does it remain unhealthy. But whatever you are adding, isn't healthy either.

 

I don't know about the link that you have given. How they work. And what possible consequences can be. I for one, always stay away from these kind of products.

 

By the way, if you have trouble with beans. Do you have trouble with rice as well?

[SiRaLeX]

Listen to your body first.

If your body reacts to something in an abnormal way with symptoms. Than it isn't really healthy.

If you take pills or whatever to take away the symptoms. Not only does it remain unhealthy. But whatever you are adding, isn't healthy either.

 

I don't know about the link that you have given. How they work. And what possible consequences can be. I for one, always stay away from these kind of products.

 

Excellent advice, mate. Appreciate it!  

 

 

Kidney beans contain a lot of the Trisaccharide called Raffinose, which humans normally can't digest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raffinose

 

What I linked is an enzyme that can be taken orally and helps break down the Raffinose before bacteria can turn it into gas. Kind of like the enzyme Lactase you can buy in tablet or powder form to break down milk sugar.

I want to note that I don't have any problem digesting milk sugar. 

 

 

By the way, if you have trouble with beans. Do you have trouble with rice as well?

 

Nope, not at all. I've never had any problem with rice.

 

 

[X3M]

If they are just enzymes. Than I see no problems with those. I guess, the beans will be "digested" in another part of your body (sooner than later). Which is natural. So I guess it is a good choice.

[SiRaLeX]

If they are just enzymes. Than I see no problems with those. I guess, the beans will be "digested" in another part of your body (sooner than later). Which is natural. So I guess it is a good choice.

 

What about introducing exogenous hormones into your body? 

 

 

This is what I've wondered about all the time: https://www.caloriecount.com/beano-affect-calories-absorbed-q11187

 

As that enzyme breaks down the Trisaccharides into simple sugars it obviously alters what your body will absorb from the food. =\

So basically Beano + Beans you could just as well eat pure sugar (IMHO).

 

 

[Adam]

Are there any other foods that have the same enzymes in them you could eating to make sure it is 'this' that you are struggling with, or are you just taking it from beans only? Are there alternatives u could try without this particular enzyme I.e different sources of protein

[SiRaLeX]

It's not about Brotein.

 

It's about Beans. They taste good.

 

 

[Adam]

Beans (legumes) cause gas because they contain a particular sugar, called oligosaccharide, that the human body can not break down. Oligosaccharides are large molecules and are not broken down and absorbed in the same way that other sugars are: by the normal digestive process that takes place in the small intestine.

 

Try this link for alternatives: http://www.dhcraleigh.com/web/wpc/uploads/2014/06/FODMAP-DIET-REVISED.pdf

[SiRaLeX]

Beans (legumes) cause gas because they contain a particular sugar, called oligosaccharide, that the human body can not break down. Oligosaccharides are large molecules and are not broken down and absorbed in the same way that other sugars are: by the normal digestive process that takes place in the small intestine.

 

Nice copy pasta. Why don't you link to the source: https://www.verywell.com/why-do-beans-cause-gas-1942947

 

 

 

[Adam]

Beans (legumes) cause gas because they contain a particular sugar, called oligosaccharide, that the human body can not break down. Oligosaccharides are large molecules and are not broken down and absorbed in the same way that other sugars are: by the normal digestive process that takes place in the small intestine.

 

Nice copy pasta. Why don't you link to the source: https://www.verywell.com/why-do-beans-cause-gas-1942947

 

the source was wikipedia, not verywell.com

[SiRaLeX]

Beans (legumes) cause gas because they contain a particular sugar, called oligosaccharide, that the human body can not break down. Oligosaccharides are large molecules and are not broken down and absorbed in the same way that other sugars are: by the normal digestive process that takes place in the small intestine.

 

Nice copy pasta. Why don't you link to the source: https://www.verywell.com/why-do-beans-cause-gas-1942947

 

the source was wikipedia, not verywell.com

 

Who do you think you are kidding? Or how dumb are you, exactly?

 

The text you pasted here is from the link I have posted:

 

 

You have copy and pasted this as it is, including any punctuation. What makes it worse, though, is that you've read half the article.

 

Wikipedia would never, ever, write something so retarded. At least I'd hope so.

 

 

[Adam]

They both seem to have the exact same - probably copy / pasted from each other also.

 

But, have you tried any alternatives from the link / table i showed you? Maybe that will help your gas?  :reporting:

[SiRaLeX]

They both seem to have the exact same - probably copy / pasted from each other also.

 

Please show me the Wikipedia page that you claim to have copy & pasted the text from.

 

Because you have not copy & pasted it from wikipedia but from verywell.com. 

 

 

But, have you tried any alternatives from the link / table i showed you? Maybe that will help your gas?  :reporting:

 

What alternatives? There is no alternatives for (kidney) beans.

 

 

[X3M]

Never knew that the wiki page would be one heck of a summary.

Now I can find out why I dislike certain beans, while liking others.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bean

 

It seems they don't have neat tables with information though. Only a graph with circles for only a few.

[SiRaLeX]

Red kidney beans are obviously the king.

 

White navy beans are very bad. Especially the small ones. The big ones can be alright but are nothing like red kidney beans.

 

Green beans and wax beans can be OK.

 

[XXxPrePxX]

I have a similar reaction to beans, but only certain types and certain times. Approximately once every 6 months I'll have some black beans that cause weird problems (to the point that I can't breath normally).

 

Beans aren't a normal part of my diet, but I have them a few (3-4?) times a month. I enjoy them and have no problems with other types (kidney etc.).

 

Lentils are king.

[X3M]

Oddly enough, I like white beans. And they don't cause me trouble at all.

The kidney beans are the one causing me trouble, even vommiting.

[SiRaLeX]

Same here, red kidney beans give me bloating and gas.

 

White kidney beans do the same. But they have a weak taste compared to red ones.

 

I don't think I've ever had black beans. They're not very common.

 

 

[Beta Girl]

On 9/13/2016 at 12:09 PM, Adam said:

Beans (legumes) cause gas because they contain a particular sugar, called oligosaccharide, that the human body can not break down. Oligosaccharides are large molecules and are not broken down and absorbed in the same way that other sugars are: by the normal digestive process that takes place in the small intestine.

 

Try this link for alternatives: http://www.dhcraleigh.com/web/wpc/uploads/2014/06/FODMAP-DIET-REVISED.pdf https://frmenu.org/

I totally agree with you but did you know what she ate that day that can't be a coincident. 

Edited September 17, 2023 by Beta Girl