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They all used to be under one roof (BlueHell Productions) until some internet drama unfolded and a few of the developers split and started W3DHub. They are both communities with the same aims really, make C&C games into First Person Shooters. So far the games are distributed as follows: W3D Hub - Command And Conquer - Tiberian Sun Reborn (This is a full Tiberian Sun conversion to first person perspective) Command And Conquer - Tiberium (This is a full CNC 1 conversion to first person perspective. It's main aim is to capture the feel of CNC 1 that renegade did so poorly at) - Still in development Command And Conquer - Apocalypse Rising (Full RA2 conversion to First person perspective) - Still in development. There is also a Dune conversion called Battle For Dune that is still under development BlueHell Productions Command And Conquer - A Path Beyond (Full RA1 conversion to first person perspective, been around for a while now)

RA1 FPS: www.bluehellproductions.com C&C 1 FPS (in development and NOT renegade) www.w3dhub.com

You can lock this thread now, situation had been rectified.

In game nickname: Shnappz erm yeah... no idea why i've been banned?

Hello Guys, I'm at work so can't confirm this but did i see a checkbox for "Beta Ladder test" when i was playing the other night? Not sure if i dreamed it. Is this something we can view at this stage or is it just for the devs testing purposes?

Hey Funky, I'm going to caveat this post by saying, I am not a cheater and i think it truly takes away from the game experience but coming from someone who has been programming for years, It wouldn't take much to figure out a way round it. Did you also do this for RA1? I'm assuming that as you're not offering it up as a download, you'll just be offering a patch? Is that correct?

Can someone explain what Funky meant by saying all the cheats had been "fixed"?

We aim for an easy setup here, just download and play. Port forwarding is not required on CnCNet, no one will be locked out. All cheats have been fixed too (there is no need for auto ss). I doubt it is about the money, most people just don't know how to open ports, they expect it to work out of the box, while others use 3g/4g or any kind of shared internet where it is not possible to open ports at all Yes i use 3G and i cant forward ports so the tunneling server is a godsend. "Cheats are fixed" Really? :laugh:

Yeah... so for some reason the cncnet launcher is causing my pc to keep shutting off. my pc used to do it every now and again anyway but it seems to be happening very regularly when i run CnCNet launcher... it's just happened 5 times while i was trying to get a game going and now i give up 8-) I'm not blaming the launcher as it's probably more of an issue with my pc.. it just seems to happen when im just about to start a game. It VERY rarely happens when the launcher is not active.

yeah i was referring to the Mega Drive version! Never had it on the PC!

Heh... they're not even credited on the box. There is a "Westwood studios" logo when you load the game up though.

Blade what are you talking about? ScummVM is a virtual machine that runs games made using the Scumm scripting language developed by lucasarts. It's not really the same as reverse engineering a game like c&c

http://youtu.be/Zp0FploW1Os Nuff said

See, this is the problem, you think OpenRA is to RA what OpenTTD is to TTD and behave as such, but it isn't. OpenTTD reverse engineered the TTD binary and created a compilable version that pretty much matched the original and only then did they start to build upon it with mostly optional changes. It can to my knowledge still use the original data files as they are, any new formats are optional. If you had reverse engineered the original binaries and then built upon them I'm sure many of the qualms people are saying they have would not be an issue. As I've tried to explain, personally I have no problems with your project, I'm not hostile to it, I just think it is misrepresenting itself as a recreation when its really an imitation that uses the original GFX to make it seem more familiar than it really is. Also, I think you are being disingenuous suggesting this is some kind of "religious crusade" based purely on some kind of ideology like you are the victims of persecution for your strange minority beliefs. The people I see being most against the way you PORTRAY openra (and not against its existence) are the ones most versed with how the original games are actually programmed and who do have some inkling of what it would take to reverse engineer them to create something that could truly be called a recreation and the fact that isn't what the open RA team actually did. It doesn't help when your website suggests that the originals have been "improved" by "more modern RTS features" either. Blade what's the difference between imitation and re creation? You lot are seriously the most pedantic bunch I've ever seen.

does anyone have problems with them getting all confused? Like when a refinery is busy they'll go miles away to another refinery, then the miner at that refinery gets confused and goes across the map to the other refinery, just slowing down your economy? I seem to get this a lot and it's doing my head in!

Dude the people complaining about how you're "representing" your mod are nothing but keyboard warriors. Anyone with a spec of technical know know how or programming knowledge, would be holding their glasses up to you because you've achieved something awesome. The people who just complain that it's not like the original and that you're "calling it the wrong thing" are really sad people... If they don't like it, don't play it. I can see it from your perspective, you've created OpenRA, it's been your passion and yes you've deviated from the original, but who cares? I just don't get why people get their underwear in such a twist over the fact you're calling it a re-creation? If anything you've created an RTS engine from scratch, without back engineering any of the original binaries... IMO that's more impressive that just building on the old engine... So many sad fanboys, who just don't understand what goes into creating an RTS from scratch.

Yeah that is over-moderation... it's a war game based in the 40s ffs... this map clearly isn't glorifying the swastika... it's just mimicking it. Dont see what the big deal is.

I prefer tiberian Dawn as a game... it just doesn't have the players and call me old fashioned but i like actual games of RA... no BS... just how it is supposed to be played.

LOL i didnt even think anyone would build the fake ones so i put it down to HAX... so my streak of terrible allies has reached its peak... he also had a pond outside his base (literally the size of a pond) and he built a naval yard and gunboats XD

So i just had a game and as usual i get the n00b as an ally. The guy moves his MCV right up to my spot, unpacks it, then out of nowhere he unpacks like 3 more... Literally 3 construction yards right next to each other. It was a normal aftermath map, no mods just standard... Could he have got three in crates maybe?? He got killed not long after and just basically sucked the rest of the game so i'm pretty sure he wasn't hacking... I tried to get a screenshot but when i pasted it into paint it was all bleh. Anyone ever seen this?

Nice work mate... that must be a good feeling

yeah it lags for me too more than 2v2! I prefer them anyway really..

1. Most of the games i join are mod maps with unlimited money and symmetrical map layouts. I'm just not interested in a fight of basewalking... it's basically about how fast you can click rather than actual strategy. 2. every game is */8 why does everyone want laggy games with 8 people? 98% of the time they lag and there is no breathing room... far too cramped. 3. I don't get too many people joining my 2v2 games. I mean, i can understand playing the odd mod map and having a laugh with unlimited money but every single game seems to be one of these maps... why are they so popular? Not really moaning just thought it'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on this.

LMFAO... fucking brilliant. Actually laughed out loud.

In complete agreement, i'm in hysterics. I am mixed race to a certain degree so never condone racism but he had me in stitches..one of the funniest trolls i've ever seen