Nyerguds Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 oh wow, a general solution for what cnc-ddraw does. Neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dare978devil Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 It works! I had previously replied asking for more details, this is the edited version. I had selected that same 16-bit option, along with Run as Admin, and WinXP SP2 compatibility mode, but had not run it in Windowed mode (or to be more precise, I did try Windowed mode, but not with all the other options at the same time). The combo of all of these changes, and the wrapper DLL just dropped into the SUN folder with no other options, worked like a charm. The game is perfectly playable, just like it was on Win7. To summarize : 1). Create a shortcut to Game.exe 2). Right-click Properties - Compatibility - Compatibility Mode - Run this program in compatibility mode for Win XP Service Pack 2. 3). Same compatibility dialog box under Settings - Reduced Color Mode - 16-bit 4). Same compatibility dialog box under Privilege Level - Run as admin 5). Shortcut properties - add " -win" to the end of the Game.exe Target so that it reads: [whatever directory]\SUN\Game.exe" -win 6). Edit the SUN.INI file video section to put in whatever video size you like (for instance, 1280*1024) 7). Go to this site : http://bitpatch.com/ddwrapper.html Download the ZIP file, and unzip ddraw.dll and aqrit.cfg files to the same directory where you found Game.exe Done! Works like a charm. Thanks Turboman! Thanks, DD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh000kz Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 thanks for help but what about tiberian sun from origin? tiberiun sun ignores the *-WIN* command, i think origin make problems with that tiberian sun from origin client still dosent work (menu bug) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yeah, the Origin launchers don't pass through any command line parameters except for "funpark" for C&C95. There's someone making fixed launchers on the official forums: http://www.commandandconquer.com/forums/showthread.php?8350-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liang Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 The menu bar actually didn't freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoolery Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 thanks for help but what about tiberian sun from origin? tiberiun sun ignores the *-WIN* command, i think origin make problems with that tiberian sun from origin client still dosent work (menu bug) What do i do if the menus and all that work, but the gameplay is very choppy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tore Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Try the C&C Graphics Patcher and see if that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoolery Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 It applies to the game.exe but not the game shortcut... FML this sucks favorite game of all time. I tried the graphics patcher and it didnt help, the gameplay is just fine AS LONG as i have no units selected and not moving the screen ha. I need to use the shortcut file in order to bypass the menu problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Whoolery, as I said, someone made fixed launchers for all Origin games. Just go and download them here: http://www.commandandconquer.com/forums/showthread.php?8350-- Then just make a shortcut of the LAUNCHER app, and give that the -win command line parameter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megumi Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 So any idea about bad framerates? When I tried Bibbers launchers on Win8 before he uploaded them I used that ddraw wrapper linked here, which worked flawlessly on RA2 where I get all the fps I want with just setting "ForceDirectDrawEmulation = 1" while for TS it did nothing and the game is jumpy as hell (as in it runs a few sec, then slows down, catches up again, slows down, etc). That happens independently of the wrapper, though I didn't test the other options yet. Arg, nevermind, setting "NoVideoMemory = 1" solves that issue. Oh and if someone is wondering how to fix the 16 bit error for windowed stuff (as Win8 x64 doesn't have the option to set the desktop to 16 bit anymore): http://thundermods.net/intern/Lilith/sun.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 C&C games also have a "back buffer in video memory" option, so combining the tweaks of the game and wrapper may be useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megumi Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 As said, just setting that one option to 1 worked perfectly fine on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoolery Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I dont use Origin... so that is no use to me, im using the 10th anniversary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 As said, just setting that one option to 1 worked perfectly fine on its own. Actually, I was talking about the game option. Which is called VideoBackBuffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megumi Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yeah and I said you can just set both in one place, which in my opinion is more comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoolery Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Oops i see how you thought i was using origin, i quoted the wrong thing... Yeah im using the installed game with the Tiberian Sun it self. i solved the menu problem but no solution has solved it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pichorra Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 C&C games also have a "back buffer in video memory" option, so combining the tweaks of the game and wrapper may be useful. Hyper said to me that that (is that correct? O_o) the Tiberian Sun do have a BackBufferInVideoMemory line in sun.ini, but it is unused ingame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megumi Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Doesn't matter, the wrapper does everything you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyWan Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I've done everything suggested, but I still can't play the LAN-mode. Anybody else got the same problem? EDIT: Nvm, I downloaded the version from this site and now it works! Thanks to everyone who has participated in the solutions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTM1977 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I had to register just for this thread I recently purchased the Ultimate Collection via Origin and have already completed the C&C 95 and Red Alert 1. Now it was time for Tiberian Sun. I had some minor stability issues with C&C 95 and Red Alert, but who would have guessed that Tiberian Sun would cause much more trouble than the older titles... Initially i had the exact same problem than the original post stated and i was able to fix it with the tips given in this thread. At that time the game was playable, menus worked etc. but it kept crashing about every 5 minutes. Nothing seemed to help. Then i uninstalled the game and downloaded the game from this site, did all the fixes again and now i was able to play for about 30 minutes without a crash. Unfortunately i did not have time for longer session now, but this looks promising. I will post update later, when i have more time to test it. Thanks for the help i already from the earlier tips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTM1977 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I guess it is safe to say that the game works for me now I have played 5 missions from the GDI campaign and i have had zero crashes during those (earlier had crashes every few minutes). Small details about my system: OS: Win 8 pro 64bit CPU: i7 3770k @ 4,5Ghz GPU: 2xGTX 680 OC 4Gb SLI RAM: 16Gb 1600mhz DDR3 HDD: 256gb SSD + 1000gb 7200rpm HDD. So, i have a modern system, but still the game works after a few tweaks. What i did? 1. Replaced Origin version with the version downloaded from this site (huge thanks for that one!). 2. Compatibility mode for both Game.exe and Sun.exe (Win XP SP2 + 16bit colours + run as admin) 3. Shortcut to Game.exe and added the -win for windowed mode. 3. Sun.ini resolution to 1280x720 4. Downloaded http://bitpatch.com/ddwrapper.html and extracted to game directory. So, most of the tips i got from earlier posts, only difference made was replacing the game version and putting compatibility to sun.exe also. It is possible that some of the steps would not be needed, but with these i got the game run stable for several hours, so i am quite happy with it I was getting pretty desperate with the constant crashes Thanks again for everyone who has contributed earlier in this thread, you made it possible for me to enjoy this old game. I have actually missed it years ago (i moved from RA1 to RA2 and somehow skipped this one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyerguds Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 That ddwrapper is great. I wish it'd include a frame rate limiter like cnc-ddraw has, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivion Knight Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 -snip- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
febb Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Hey, comrades. Had the same problem as mentioned in the first post. Followed your instructions. Problem solved. Here's another one (see screenshot). I have asus ux32vd. The screen resolution is 1920x1080. I have tried changing SUN.INI any possible way - I can only make the game window bigger, but the "gaming area" size in the center of the window always stays the same: very very small. Any suggestions how to make it bigger, mates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tore Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Changing the resolution settings in sun.ini doesn't change the menus, but it allows you to see more of the game world while ingame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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