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Its good to dream big bro, keep it up

As for the borgs, they are not OP as a unit alone. You do pure borg rush (borg + inf), vs basic inf, they will lose unless you fight on tib. However they can seem OP or very hard if you send a harvbomb with borgs, so its the combo which can be seen as "OP". And i have to say it is a hard combo to defend but its possible, but remember if this attacks fails they player will be behind econwise and with 1 harv less early game. it is the same concept wihout vet borgs, if you send them with a harv bomb, it is hard to kill. Another thing which makes borgs seem OP, if peoples inf control is just bad or lacking.

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I see why you always die so easy in 1v1 and 2v2., your logic fails in several aspects. Check the video where toprush comes to me with titans, even if i used rocket inf they would die by the bomber, where do you want to deploy ticks on a hill? You cant. All your brilliant ideas doesn't not change the fact, that west wood wanted to change and fix the ticktank, and therefore the vet armor upgrade when deployed is a fair and valid upgrade. But ill let you in on a secret, i dont need vet to own anyone, i do it all fine without, but i prefer fair game play and hot fixes to nod on the areas where its clearly needed, and should/ would have been fixed at the time but didn't.

Ticks are equivalent to titans, also price wise, and even more funny is, IT WAS NOT intended to be that weak and the developers wanted to fix this but did get the chance to finish before everything was shut down. Also did you watch the video where i emp a bunch of titans and just when im about to send out ticks to kill them, 1 bomber killed them all 7 ticks deployed mode, so how would i spread and deploy them them in such short time? The borgs are all fine, not OP. People just don't respect the unit and unit value. One borg = 6 inf. so when you see 6-7 of them inc its a big inf rush , you will need inf to kill them. Also don't be an idiot and fight them on the tib. I admit a harv bomb and 6-7 borgs can be hard to defend, but it can be stopped.

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Live die repeat,! ?

The poll isn't fair its misleading and its old. I voted for 3 and and would be satisfied with anything more then 1 log, and after talking to several people who voted more then one, they had same logic as me. I assumed if you voted for more logs and it won as a majority, (everything more then one log) you would pick the option which had most votes in. Anyhow this poll is old, you want to change it, do a re vote and new poll. You cant use old data to justify a new system.

This topic is old now anyway, if you seek changes set up a new poll. Make it simple: ”I want one log” ”I want more then one log”. After this they can decide what is fair amount of logs. Its funny to see some people who have voted for 1 log, either do not play the game or are even active on ladder. It makes no difference end of the day for me, you'll lose anyway if i have 1 or 10 logs, i just like to play logs to top potions from 0.

That’s not true, since the majority clearly wants more then one log ? if I voted for infinite logs as the only guy, it doesn’t make sense that I will settle for 1 log wins because it has most single votes. I will settle for anything more then one 1 that’s why I voted infinitely, same goes for the guy who voted 3 logs, he will settle for 2 as it’s better then 1. Anyone who doesn’t vote for 1 log, are happy witty more then one. the poll is flawed if you think the majority do not want more then one log, because they voted for 3,4,5 and it did not get enough single points. Because who ever voted for anything then 1 log only, will automatic be happy with anything above 1 log, like 2. But my statement is still correct, majority of players who voted wants more then 1 log, or else they would all have voted 1 log. You can do a new poll again and see ”I want one log” ”I want more then one log”. Will probably be the best, even 2 logs is fine for me. I’ll call one corpsbashR and other tamingtiger

Amokk is just an idiot. He can’t even back up what he doesn’t like about vet, and the guy plays fucking giants the worst mod map of mods, not true to the game at all and he complaining about being true to the game? what a fucking Idiotic hypocrite. all I can say is, stfu and learn to live with it. End of story & topic, since you bring no valid input and can’t answer any questions when asked.

"Why dont we work on making fair maps" Have you been sleeping? what do you think VET maps are, if not fair? Vet maps = fixes issues with balance of teams, bugs and maps.

I am looking at the votes which have been counted on the poll, and nothing else, i have no clue what you are bringing up. 10x on poll said 1 log is enough and do not want more. Rest of them said more then 1 log is fine as you can see on the poll, which means the minimum of 2 logs would be fine for them even they voted for 3,4,5 or unlimited, because they did not vote for 1 log, but more then 1 log. The majority of the 21 votes on poll all wants more then 1 log.

Retarded or something? It seems so. Like I said the ladder is fine and I think it’s great work done by cncnet and the team. Your the one crying and apparently don’t understand shit ? Im done wasting time with idiots like you.

I don’t know if your slow or just born retarded. I’ve never said I speak for any one, have I? First off, I just stated that I agree with the changes they made and if you can’t handle that, isn’t my problem. 2nd I stated this ain’t Westwood or EA, it’s cncnet, and they run the things they way they want to. Like vet, fixes and game balance, ladder and on, so if you do not like it, that’s to bad. It isn’t so hard to understand this ?

You are clearly retarded. I never said anything about the use of S, I gave it as an example, where some players see it just as much as a bug as alt, where I see them both fair. Which also is besides the point and S haven’t been changed so what are you on about ? The point Is cncnet have chosen to see alt as an bug or as unfair sportsmanship, and decided it should be fixed, just as they fixed bug build, and many other things. They have improved ts in many areas such as FPS, bugs and game balance. If you dislike this and prefer ts untouched filled with bugs, I suggest you find another server, also I couldn’t care less what you do. Cncnet also have contact with the original developers and programmers, and they have said the game was left unfinished, unbalanced and filled with bugs. let me clarify once again: CNCNET runs the show, and they have put the work and time into fixes & bugs and a ladder system. If you don’t like their way, then your on the wrong server. Is that clear enough for you? No it’s cncnet to do with as pleased, as the have they current rights to host the servers. So get educated? But feel free to complain to Westwood studios/ EA, and see what happens. Answer: nothing.

I do understand fine, you perhaps do not want to understand. Yes you said, alt do not need to be fixed, but haven’t complained about it has been fixed, you have accepted it, as a fix without issues. And your logic for letting it be fails hard, I mean “kick players or ban” who uses alt? If it is not fixed, it just means it is allowed, just like using S with subs. Now it’s fixed because it’s seen upon as unfair/ poor sportsmanship. alt is just one example of one bug fixed, there are plenty more which you haven’t noticed but take for given.. so yeah it is cherry picking, when you don’t mind some bugs have been fixed, and haven’t said a word probably because you haven’t noticed. If we follow your logic all bugs should be undone, to be true to original ts, now how idiotic would that be. like I said this is not Westwood or EA, it’s cncnet. They fixed some bugs, unbalanced units and put a ladder system which is different from the old one and better. is it your opinion ladder is only meant for vet players, ladder is for everyone who wants to play, but yes the ladder is balanced with vet maps and also balanced with matching games on random maps, with random players and fractions. Which is much more fair then the old one, and truly shows where your skill cap Is. That’s the ladder cncnet has chosen. I’ve seen plenty of modders and new players jump on ladder and improved their gameplay, perhaps you should play it more? So if you can’t handle cncnet server, feel free to go xwis or any other server, or host your own?

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Alt = kick or ban? Well first you cant do that in ladder games if ALT was not fixed, you are forced to play or surrender. 2nd some people see this as unfair i never did, you still spend cash on a plane and let it fly into enemy base, but that's besides the point. You cant have "alt fixed" and then not other issues fixes, stop cherry picking. Banshee fix on vet works, the maps it does not work in, you tell and it will be fixed. It is separate issue for each map, which needs a short fix. The ladder never existed like this on old ww, this is the cncnet ladder, and its much more active then it was to start off ever since vet was fixed into it. No one is forcing anything onto anyone, you can play any map you like if you host. If you want to play cncnet ladder, then you have to live with the facts, that the server decided it should be vet. It is pretty simple.

Well you want some bugs fixed, and others not fixed? It does not make sense.

I think he cant read a poll bro. It clearly shows: 10 votes for 1 log. 11 votes for more then 1 log. Who wins, multiply logs, or at least having minimum of 2 logs. It really is not hard to understand?