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Month after month no. I can't remember exactly, but from my memory some players was top 10 playing random. So playing as Russia, Germany, Yuri etc. Zigzag or Sandeep could help us (and help my memory) if i'm saying right or wrong. For sure i agree that Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un will become best friends before this topic is ever resolved =p since mid-2002 people are crying that Yuri is OP. But it's the first time that i see a topic people crying that Sov >> Allied. That's why i'm a bit surprised ^_^.

Competitive match, you can use all strategy. So i agree with seal IFV. It does not matter if it's "lame", "noob", or anything else. If you play for win, do all stuffs that you can. Else play friendly match.

Ok thank you lol !

In the game A (Buffalo) vs S (Marko). I noticed that Marko never went for battle lab and IP. It's a mistake/forget i guess? It could give him more tanks, and reduce time to make rhino. Anyway well done from both players. GG. Well done for the stream also!

Hi Cekaj, I disagree with your "Competitive Ban-list Rules" - Real Time Strategy (RTS) game means that you have to be smarter than your opponent. SW - Yuri - France - Engineer are part of games. And they are not over/underpowered.

Did you know that : 1- Yuri clone or Yuri prime can be leet by deploying and killing units ! For example, a leet yuri prime can control any building without latence between 2. 2- Yuri clone/Yuri prime by deploying can kill dolphins (maybe also octopus?) 3- you can put drone chaos inside a BF; BF will move with the drone chaos always "deploying". =P

Yes; just to see the time difference making grizzly / rhino. I recommand them to play in Ally Match vs 1 IA. They build together wf next each other. I don't know the time; but from my experience of player, rhino is almost like a miner. Consider miner is the reference time; it's like a rhino "time-cost" around 1200; and an grizzly 900-1000. Every 4/5 rhino, allied get 1 more grizzly.

Why all these shit calcul ? Just make a sov wf. Plays with allied, start making grizzly / rhino same time (according 2 sec of deviation) Build like 10 of each. See how many grizzly you have for how many rhino. You have the ratio +/- the deviation of 2 sec; which be considered as null as 10 tanks will take lot of time to do.

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yes that's true that allied requires more skill than soviet. It's also true that teching requires more skill than just a rush, even in SvS. If you go 1 miner vs no miner on BF/DP you have to play well to resist 1st. I would just answer to lucifer telling that Sov run over Allied. At low skill yes, just pop up Rhino and you win, and APP has nothing to do with. At good skill it's completly different.

Hi Lucifer, Your ague is OK at start. But you forget somethings; the time rhino needs to get at allied base. In Yuri's revenge, there is also IFV +GGI which are build very fast. For your example, on map like Blood Feud or dune Patrol; when the sov has 2 rhino and then reach to the allied base; if allied makes IFV + GGI he will have 2 of them vs 2 rhino; he can handle; if allied goes to grizzly, he will have almost 2 grizzly when rhino are there. And he can pop-up some pillbox or gi's. At tier 2 allied has rocketer/harrier. -> forcing sov to make 1 or 2 flak, and then re-balanced the number of grizzly vs rhino.

Yes i understood that you know how to play I think Sunny's level is pretty strong VS sov (i dont know vs allied in mirror match); that's i would like to see a top match between vs top sov. Ok be careful, even if for soviet the gameplay between Ra2 and Yuri is not very different, with allied it's very different. At this subject, i have one question, when someone put Ra2 mode, i know like BF/Choppers everything from Yuri does not exist. But it's also change the building time of units as in Ra2 ? I doubt it; it's like as slow as yuri to pop up rhino/grizzly. (And is miner need 2 shots to kill one drone ?)

Went back in last months of 2005 until middle 2006. sorry for the mistake. And yes, you are right, i checked HoF in 2004 and i saw nickname of top players at WOL time. But who was better between WOL time/XWIS it's another discussion. My point was to tell @Blazer ask top players allied players from now and for sure you can improve. Some people critics Sunny here; but his game play as Allied is pretty good vs Sov. I think Buffalo is a good sov player no ? I would like this see some match between Buffalo Sov vs Sunny Allied. and streamed them; It could be good!

hm... I think Marsh you are exagerating. I played in 2001-2002, i was alot better than in 2006-2007 (was faster, could focus everywhere on the map, was smarter, etc.), and in 2006-2007 i come back from no where and be at top5 instantly... won the ladder 1st or 2nd month i went back... and did not played for 4-5 years... But there was still competition so all players could improve. I agree with Prep, people now (and during XWIS) are better during short game, as before there was the 3mn rule. But i think this rule was pretty good, because you had to be a very good players, and don't use lame tactics (miner on WF; engi-eat; etc.). But once you find an issue to stop engi-eat, obviously easy for a top players, it stays only the skill. For me, without any doubt : WOL >>> XWIS >>>> Now. PS : i'm speaking about Yuri's Revenge game. For Ra2 i can't say nothing if it was better/etc. i was OK on XWIS but not in WOL.

I'm not ok with you Mindwar on this point. Yes they are good players now. But due to the fact that there is no competitive ladder, not very good players etc. the level is lower compare than before. I'm pretty sure if go back in "gold days" (2000-2002) of Ra2/Yuri; maybe in a friendly match, in strange map, with luck and everything maybe they can win one game; but in a ladder match, even the best allied from now could not win 1 game vs top 20+ But to answer @Blazer you can still find some good players to improve your gameplay for sure!

Agree with Prep. I can help you. About BO; maps; where to put building etc. you don't need any opponent. You can make a video alone : no gem map and no oils: no gem but oils: gem and oils. About TC; which unit to do and why, yes you need an opponent.

GG. It means you played good =) I would like to try some vs you ! But i'm not often online

Hey ! I'm not completly ok with your opinion. Vs good players (yuri/allied/sov) para can't be missed. So the only good point for USA, compare to others factions, is to keep free-para in your own base to help your tanks to defend vs Yuri. Can be useful in short game, then when the game start to be long, para are not as useful as they were (can be minded, virus, mutator etc.). Korea can be very strong in map with gem where you can tech+make tanks+make eagles, and harass yuri killing his lab (TOE, off/deff, DH etc.). In map without gem (DP/BF) i would agree USA seems better. in Large map as CS i don't know, maybe USA also but not sure. About your BO; JSDS; If it's a regular map (without gem) you can"t handle making eagle + tanks. So i think just an attack gattling/mag will kill you

Old SS from a mate! In october *LFY* was also us ! I have good remember of OM3RTA (they were not the best, but very good and played alot, all games/maps/spot etc). 3ZGG i had very good game vs them, i think desolator was in this clan (no?), and we had very hard battle on DP 1on1 / CS 2on2! LEG3ND reminds me something but can't know exactly...

Thanks god. 2 v 2 Map = CS 1 v 1 Map = DP Fun map (FFA; 3v3 etc.) Sedona / Heck / Defcon 6