Which tank has the highest damage output? Light, medium or heavy?

[NDiaz]

Yo guys,

 

I did some .ini file research on tanks, but the numbers don't clearly show which tank does the most damage over time. Is it a simple maths calculation, or does the rate of fire follow a non-linear scale?

 

; light tank

Damage=25

ROF=40

Range=4

 

; medium tank

Damage=30

ROF=50

Range=4.75

 

; heavy tank

Damage=30 (x2)

ROF=70

Range=4.75

 

[X3M]

There are some earlier topics about this. It is important to realize, not only damage output. But also durability of an unit.

 

https://forums.cncnet.org/index.php?topic=5696.msg42203#msg42203

The above topic reminds players that a medium tank is simply twice as good, when facing tesla coils. However, any other form of combat suggests light tanks.

 

 

And for something really cool, check out these calculations:

https://forums.cncnet.org/index.php?topic=3216.msg22398#msg22398

[NDiaz]

There are some earlier topics about this. It is important to realize, not only damage output. But also durability of an unit.

 

https://forums.cncnet.org/index.php?topic=5696.msg42203#msg42203

The above topic reminds players that a medium tank is simply twice as good, when facing tesla coils. However, any other form of combat suggests light tanks.

 

 

And for something really cool, check out these calculations:

https://forums.cncnet.org/index.php?topic=3216.msg22398#msg22398

 

Interesting stuff thanks! In that tank comparison table, France has the strongest tanks, so why does everyone prefer Germany?

 

So I ran an AI test pitting England, France and Spain against Germany with 1 stationary medium tank each. Here's the results for damage done:

 

1. Germany

2. Spain

3. England

4. France

 

So in first place is Germany! The German tank killed all of the others without dying. It's also arguable that Spain are the strongest, because when their tank was destroyed a man appeared and destroyed the German tank! This however seems to be random, because in multiple tests a man didn't always appear for Spain, and sometimes for England but never for Germany. I couldn't see a value to control this randomness in the .ini file, just either crewed or not.

 

So in conclusion, it seems that the cncnet version has changed the tank values a bit, making Germany marginally the strongest for damage output.

 

And as for damage output for each tank, the heavy tank comes out on top, followed by light then medium.

 

But in a tank fight it's still unclear because there are a lot of variables to account for. Assuming an equal number of tanks (ignoring any build speed/economy advantage), when you factor in speed + splash damage + range + rate of fire + damage done per shot + durability, which tank is stronger? Is it even testable?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[FunkyFr3sh]

All allies countries are 100% the same on cncnet 5

 

 

In the original game germany was by far the best, second was france i think and last england. (the other countries are not available in the original game)

 

The bug happened because all countries were supposed to get a 10% bonus, but england and france had the bonus applied in a negative way -10%

 

 

I think when you do such tests on cncnet then always one tank survives, unless you use a scripted map where tanks attack each other using triggers, then it might be possible that both will die at the same time sometimes (there are some random things going on too, so it will not always happen)

[X3M]

11/10 < 10/9

Is that what you mean Funky?

 

It is funny how France is supposed to be better, according to the numbers. But Germany still is better.

 

Could it be the first shot damage?

 

Or has using the hotkey Q something to do with it all? How is the splash damage calculated? I am curious about that one. Maybe France is weaker and Germany is stronger according to rounding to whole numbers?? If that is done any way?

Dividing by 2, gives 15 and 17 damage. Which is 13,3% in difference in damage.

[FunkyFr3sh]

France was never better, the stats on your link are based on values the game never used. He probably wanted to show off how it was supposed to be, which is kinda cool actually (Maybe someone likes to make a mod using these values)

[NDiaz]

Thanks for the info Funky.

 

So if all allied countries are the same in CNCNET, it must be that some maps have been altered. In my test, France visibly fired faster, but did less damage (using gold rush).

 

 

 

 

[Ford (retired)]

From highest to lowest damage output

 

Heavy

Light

Medium

 

Mediums are the most cost effective though since their health is the same as heavy tank and cost-to-damage ratio is similar.

[NDiaz]

Thanks Andrew Ford!

[NDiaz]

Here's a link to my tank test for Germany, Spain, England and France: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BFbMSPfyYI

I think it's clear to see that the countries are not the same. For example, France is firing at a different rate and England has the weakest tank.

I've reproduced this a few times with the same results. Germany always wins.

[[Spro]Sin]

Ive been Wanting too know if a q fight happen on p4 and the players just build one type of tank what tank win ? 

light medium or heavy ?