RoadToZion Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 When I go to downloads I find that Dune 2000 doesn't have a note that the game is not packed inside. Does anyone agree that Dune 2000 is freeware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokite_Wolf Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) Dune 2000 was never officially released as freeware. However, it seems to be in copyright hell like the other Dune games, and Gruntmods uses this situation by releasing their own version of it (compatible with CnCNet): https://www.gruntmods.com/dune_2000_gruntmods_edition/ Edited May 31, 2017 by Plokite_Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) On 2017-5-31 at 6:21 PM, Plokite_Wolf said: Dune 2000 was never officially released as freeware. However, it seems to be in copyright hell like the other Dune games, and Gruntmods uses this situation by releasing their own version of it (compatible with CnCNet): https://www.gruntmods.com/dune_2000_gruntmods_edition/ Is this game safe to download and how many gigabytes or megabytes are required to download? Edited June 11, 2017 by KirovAirship101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokite_Wolf Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 If it weren't safe, I wouldn't have linked it to you. 94,3 MB, if you don't install the cutscene pack which the installer will give you the option to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMadman001 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) On 5/31/2017 at 1:21 PM, Plokite_Wolf said: Dune 2000 was never officially released as freeware. However, it seems to be in copyright hell like the other Dune games, and Gruntmods uses this situation by releasing their own version of it (compatible with CnCNet): https://www.gruntmods.com/dune_2000_gruntmods_edition/ So this basicly means that they recreated the game and it's okay to download with no concquenses? Edited July 1, 2018 by DaMadman001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fir3w0rx Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 7 hours ago, DaMadman001 said: So this basicly means that they recreated the game and it's okay to download with no concquenses? Re-creating a video game doesn't avoid consequences or override copyright laws. If this was the case, I'd be borrowing money from the bank to re-create every classic I can think of and make millions! I'm not too sure but I think all the rights would have been passed on to Electronic Arts since they bought out Westwood Studios (Dune 2k's developer) years ago. But even so, unless Gruntmods starts making money off of Dune 2k (and I mean a serious amount of money), EA will not bother getting it's legal team to take any sort of action as it's a waste of their time and money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokite_Wolf Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 14 hours ago, DaMadman001 said: they recreated the game They didn't. They just patched it and changed a few things around. 6 hours ago, fir3w0rx said: I'm not too sure but I think all the rights would have been passed on to Electronic Arts since they bought out Westwood Studios (Dune 2k's developer) years ago. But even so, unless Gruntmods starts making money off of Dune 2k (and I mean a serious amount of money), EA will not bother getting it's legal team to take any sort of action as it's a waste of their time and money. They would've if they had the rights. When it comes to Dune games, nobody has the rights, since they used a third-party licensed, and that third party was the Herbert estate that effectively banned the use of the license in all commerical video- and board games in the early 2000s. Nobody can pick the license up: the Herbert estate didn't make the games, EA isn't allowed to sell, support, or claim anything Dune-related. Hence, there is zero consequence for fans to distribute them freely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fir3w0rx Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, Plokite_Wolf said: They would've if they had the rights. When it comes to Dune games, nobody has the rights, since they used a third-party licensed, and that third party was the Herbert estate that effectively banned the use of the license in all commerical video- and board games in the early 2000s. Nobody can pick the license up: the Herbert estate didn't make the games, EA isn't allowed to sell, support, or claim anything Dune-related. Hence, there is zero consequence for fans to distribute them freely. I don't understand; fans can distribute the games... but EA cannot? And how about for profit? If Gruntmods, or anybody else for that matter, were to sell Dune 2k, will they be sued? And by who, Frank Herbert's family? Does someone need to ressurect Westwood in order to sue? I really can't wrap my head around it ? Edited July 3, 2018 by fir3w0rx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myg Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 If you work with un-freeware games you shouldnt be suprised if you get a cease and desist order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plokite_Wolf Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 17 hours ago, fir3w0rx said: I don't understand; fans can distribute the games... but EA cannot? Basically, what the fans are doing is glorified piracy from a legal standpoint, it's just that nobody can sue, because that would mean that the one who sues owns the rights to the games, and right now nobody fits the description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberian Son Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Only 1 person could say something Brian Herbert. Will he, no he is still writing, we are waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberian Son Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) Admin, can we make these link to the following in Community? http://dune2k.com/Duniverse/ https://www.dunenovels.com/ https://gruntmods.com/dune_2000_gruntmods_edition/ http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Dune_2000_(video_game) https://forum.dune2k.com/forum/11-dune-2000/ It links in CnC Communications Center https://cnc-comm.com/dune-2000, Yet no downloads, it would just seem easier in one place. Just trying to get a Dune 2020 into The Remaster. Edited November 10, 2018 by Tiberian Son Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procyon Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 So Emperor battle for dune stand in the same legal void? So its possible to release an “imprived version”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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