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Haha, interesting! It looks pretty authentic too. At any rate, the possibility of content that was modified or different from the original release having slipped into a localization still remains.

Ehh, that's quite a bit awkward. Anyway, I have no idea why he didn't opt to contact you directly. I also didn't know that you implemented the language addon option specifically at Siberian_GRemlin's request.

There's certainly a long-standing tradition of twisting the law to protect corporate interests. The outcome of this one though is quite educational, as the company was pressed to backtrack its censorship within 24 hours after the story went public.

The Cynical Brit, a well-known video game YouTube critic, relays the details of a recent incident in this video: This video is no longer available: The Day One Garry's Incident Incident Basically a game development company used the "copyright protection" legislation to take down a video review that harshly criticized their game, and got away with it (for now at least). [Edit] After the general public on the Internet was outraged by this event, Wild Games Studio was pressured to restore the original review: ? WTF Is... - Day One: Garry's Incident ?

Recently I was looking through the MIX contents of the German TFD DOS Add-on, and noticed that the normally unused Hovercraft DOS icon (LSTICON.SHP) actually displays the hovercraft, whereas the English version of the game displays an APC facing west instead. I assume the new icon was added in the German version, or does it come from a later release of the English version? This is not the first time a localized version of a Westwood game features differences from the original English release that are not actually related to the translation. The German version of Red Alert has a slightly different animation of electrocuted infantry, and there are a few unused sound effect files. I wonder if more extra content can be found in localized versions of other games as well?

Siberian_GRemlin recently reported a problem with Russian language support in v1.06C r3: the Russian language option is missing from the setup programme and if added manually in conquer.ini it crashes the setup programme when saving the settings. I vaguely remember that some time ago, someone here posted something about Siberian_GRemlin's localization being fully functional with the 1.06 patch.

Back on topic, I've noticed an interesting thing: while the actual demo missions are located inside DEMOL.MIX, the main data file, DEMO.MIX, contains what seems to be unaltered versions of SCG03EA, SCG05EA and SCG10EA from the full game. Apparently, these were at some point intended to be the demo missions instead of the final choice of edited scenarios. The game seems to use some hardcoded override to read scenario files either from the directory or from DEMOL.MIX, so that the original version of SCG10EA from DEMO.MIX is not loaded. Otherwise the demo is quite capable of reading files inside SC######.MIX archives. Anyway, I've made a little fix for the FTP demo that addresses the following issues: truncated briefing text in missions 1 and 2 is now fully visible the "Right away sir!" infantry response voice clip is now played in the game Construction Yard shadow is restored GDi no longer treat civilians as hostile in mission 2 cc_demo_fix.zip

Machine translation is fun.[/offtopic]

It seems to me that this person is asking whether your patch adds support for Sole Survivor maps. Or maybe Sole Survivor-sized maps.

Ah, that's what it is. And I was wondering why only Nod has a separate counter for civilians on the score screen... Well, if that is the case, then there seems to be not exactly too few GDI missions where the devs forgot to put the alliance with civilians on. Granted, the village in mission 10 from the demo is quite away from the Nod base so the entire mission can be won without even encountering any civilians, but still it's quite an oversight. As for the civilian building power consumption, was it impossible to just set it to zero? Also, I forgot, is this issue relevant for all versions of the game, or only for the Win95 version? On yet another note, I vaguely remember reading somewhere about some of the civilian buildings that actually have normal base building functions (radar, barracks and even the Ion Cannon IIRC). Maybe this was in some mission INI research topic but I'm not sure anymore. Is there any document that covers this? (Sorry for straying off-topic a bit )

So there's no hardcoded automatic GoodGuy/Neutral alliance by default? Somehow I had this impression that this was the case, and frankly, I never noticed the absence of it before...

Since no one has replied to my post at CNCNZ Forums, I'm re-posting it here: Recently I've been playing the downloadable version of the C&C demo, and noticed that in the second mission (originally GDI mission 10) the civilians are by default treated as hostiles by the player's units, and any civilian that happens to get in the range of a GDI unit gets automatically attacked. Nod also attacks civilians, as it should be. I don't have the full version right now, but certainly GDI should be friendly to civilians by default? I have compared the scenario INI files from the demo and the original ones Nyer has on his site, and the full versions scenario does not have any extra lines to enable allied status between GDI and civilians - unlike that Nod scenario where the civilians are Nod's allies, which uses the "Allies" variable to override default settings: I haven't yet checked the CD demo, but at any rate this is a bit confusing. Also, to complicate matters further, it seems that in the next demo mission (the Commando mission) civilians are mutually friendly with GDI, as it should be.

Perhaps someone could make a decent impersonation? (or should I rather say "impression" in this context? )

Right, now I remember that. Still a nice ascended glitch if you ask me

IIRC I've read somewhere that the Westwood guys, while being aware of the formation movement speed exploit, decided to keep it that way in the game for nostalgia/tradition's sake.

"Sleipnir's Stuff" sounds vaguely familiar... I visited that site a long time ago I guess. Those cameos are made by hand, not some long-lost originals, right? I did something similar way back, only with a darkened background (that pack was a spin-off of an unofficial C&C Russian translation by Siberian_GRemlin). I actually used the scanned images of the C&C strategy guide renders to get a more accurate reconstruction of the missing parts of the images. Man, that was some tedious work! ^_^

That's very interesting. But then again, similar things can be observed in the history of Dune II: some multi-language support was added very early, with only a theoretical possibility of a translation in mind, and then it came to actual translations, and of course this prompted further modifications where needed. For example, Dune II v1.0 can be set to German and French with a three-language setup programme, in which case it will read the text files with GER or FRE extensions instead of ENG; the patched US v1.07 adds further support for the swapping of images that contain text, such as the interface buttons, the title screen and the Select Your House screen; finally, true three-language European releases add support for non-English unit voices and Mentat speech. Oh, and among those, the EU version adds a narrower sidebar font (and a theoretical possibility to use the regular English sidebar font and the narrower one for other languages only) and a fix for unit hotkey commands to circumvent the fact that in French both the Move and the Attack commands start with the letter A.

I think Siberian_GRemlin just edited the binary executable file to replace the relevant strings with their Russian counterparts of similar or smaller length. I'm not 100% sure about that though, maybe he did some more extensive EXE editing or hacking too.

Well, Siberian_GRemlin's translation has neat fonts, and all text is translated, including the text on sidebar icons, the title screen and the intro logo animation (*ahem* by yours truly).

I meant sounds as in "allophones". Syllables, being build from those, are higher-level units and thus different. (Syllables consist of "sound matter" too of course, but the distinction between sounds and syllables is important in linguistics for a number of reasons.) Well, that's just as I thought. Actually, it is possible to cut out single phones in the right phonetic surroundings and then glue them together in a desirable way, but that's certainly a lot more work (and probably needs some advanced software to do that neatly), and it's largely unnecessary anyway if you have enough starting material that contains all the desired sound-combinations already. I'm not very familiar with Spanish phonology, so I don't know the specifics, but in many languages there are also various effects that modify sounds depending on their position within the phonological word, prior to intonation modifiers that arise from the structure of the phrase (vowel reduction is a nice example; apparently it's not observed in Spanish BTW).

Lost Temple? So this is a remake of that classic Starcraft map?

Or, moving the cursor around the minimap But you're right, the fact that the decloaking subs thing happens in SP at all is a SNAFU on Westwood's part.

Ehh, I meant the DOS pack for C&C (tfddoscc1ger.rar), not RA. Sorry if that was confusing.

Out of curiosity, did you build those sound-by-sound or syllable-by-syllable? The latter seems like it could be a bit easier.

Well, would be nice if you linked to the sources you got the unofficial translations from (unless you made them yourself that is). i assume the Russian one comes from Siberian_GRemlin's website?