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You have repeatedly broken the rules in my games and laughed about it.. very very satisfying seeing you cry about it you hypocrite.

I was not fulfilling a request for patch notes. Avesta asked if some might compromise and play a vet balanced map we play on the ladder It was in support of my assertion that if you vet balance mod a map we play for the tournament it is no longer the one we are used to, and would not increase tournament participation as much as if it were unaltered. We know vet balance mod is the way you like, can >> you << compromise and add the ones most of the player base likes? That just might increase participation in the tournament. now, please explain how the discussion of vet balance changes about obelisks and units stats applies to the original post! dkeeton June was a bad month for the Tiberian Sun ladder. What needs to be done to get activity up? they are useless and annoying to scroll through.

I directly addressed the original post. so, no. dkeeton asked what needs to be done to get activity up, Avesta asked if I thought they would compromise and play a vet modded version of the maps we play. (fewer, avesta, fewer....imho) I suggested adding some of the maps the rest of us play >> unchanged << (without all those changes) might help some people to consider playing the tournament. are you guys saying changing the obelisks will ----- dkeeton June was a bad month for the Tiberian Sun ladder. What needs to be done to get activity up? ----help get activity up? What about lobby announcements?

"dkeeton June was a bad month for the Tiberian Sun ladder. What needs to be done to get activity up?" here is some more nonsense.. if you add the maps others play, like they play them (without the vet mod, I think more would consider playing the tourney. but if you add a map that we play but you changed the following, probably not as many..... vet patch (or a mod is a mod is a mod) The Strength value of NAOBEL has been changed from 725 to 600 The ROF value of LaserFire has been changed from 120 to 46 The Trainable value of CYBORG has been changed from Unknown to no The Trainable value of E3 has been changed from Unknown to no The Trainable value of CYC2 has been changed from no to yes The Elite value of CYC2 has been changed from Unknown to EliteCyCannon The EliteAbilities value of CYC2 has been changed from Unknown to SELF_HEAL,FASTER The Elite value of BGGY has been changed from Unknown to EliteRaiderCannon The EliteAbilities value of BGGY has been changed from CRUSHER to FIREPOWER,STRONGER The Elite value of BIKE has been changed from HoverMissile to EliteBikeMissile The EliteAbilities value of BIKE has been changed from VEIN_PROOF to FIREPOWER,STRONGER The TooBigToFitUnderBridge value of ART2 has been changed from Unknown to true The Elite value of ART2 has been changed from Unknown to Elite155mm The EliteAbilities value of ART2 has been changed from SELF_HEAL to FIREPOWER,STRONGER The Elite value of GAARTY has been changed from Unknown to Elite155mm The EliteAbilities value of GAARTY has been changed from SELF_HEAL to FIREPOWER,STRONGER The TooBigToFitUnderBridge value of TTNK has been changed from Unknown to true The Armor value of TTNK has been changed from light to heavy The Elite value of TTNK has been changed from 120mmx to Elite90mm The EliteAbilities value of TTNK has been changed from SENSORS to FIREPOWER,STRONGER The Elite value of GATICK has been changed from 120mmx to Elite90mm The EliteAbilities value of GATICK has been changed from SENSORS to FIREPOWER,STRONGER The Strength value of STNK has been changed from 180 to 230 The Armour value of STNK has been changed from Unknown to wood The CloakingSpeed value of STNK has been changed from 5 to 3 The Turret value of STNK has been changed from no to Yes The Elite value of STNK has been changed from Unknown to EliteDragon The EliteAbilities value of STNK has been changed from EXPLODES to STRONGER,SELF_HEAL The ThreatAvoidanceCoefficient value of WEED has been changed from .6 to 0.00 The Elite value of APACHE has been changed from Unknown to EliteHarpyClaw The EliteAbilities value of APACHE has been changed from Unknown to FIREPOWER,SELF_HEAL The Elite value of SCRIN has been changed from Unknown to EliteProton The EliteAbilities value of SCRIN has been changed from RADAR_INVISIBLE to FIREPOWER,SELF_HEAL The Cost value of DOGGIE has been changed from 100 to 330 The Elite value of DOGGIE has been changed from Unknown to EliteFiendShard The EliteAbilities value of DOGGIE has been changed from Unknown to STRONGER,SELF_HEAL The Cost value of VISC_LRG has been changed from 1 to 330 The Trainable value of VISC_LRG has been changed from Unknown to Yes The Elite value of VISC_LRG has been changed from Unknown to EliteSlimeAttack The EliteAbilities value of VISC_LRG has been changed from Unknown to STRONGER,SELF_HEAL The Damage value of EliteFiendShard has been changed from Unknown to 42 The ROF value of EliteFiendShard has been changed from Unknown to 30 The Burst value of EliteFiendShard has been changed from Unknown to 3 The Range value of EliteFiendShard has been changed from Unknown to 6 The Projectile value of EliteFiendShard has been changed from Unknown to DogShard The Speed value of EliteFiendShard has been changed from Unknown to 25 The Warhead value of EliteFiendShard has been changed from Unknown to Shard The Report value of EliteFiendShard has been changed from Unknown to FIEND2 The Damage value of EliteSlimeAttack has been changed from Unknown to 120 The Range value of EliteSlimeAttack has been changed from Unknown to 1.56 The ROF value of EliteSlimeAttack has been changed from Unknown to 80 The Projectile value of EliteSlimeAttack has been changed from Unknown to Invisible The Speed value of EliteSlimeAttack has been changed from Unknown to 25 The Warhead value of EliteSlimeAttack has been changed from Unknown to Slimer The Report value of EliteSlimeAttack has been changed from Unknown to VICER1 The Burst value of Heal has been changed from Unknown to 2 The Range value of Heal has been changed from 2.83 to 4.5 The Damage value of Vulcan3 has been changed from 10 to 12 The Range value of Vulcan3 has been changed from 4 to 5 The Damage value of AssaultCannon has been changed from 40 to 31 The Burst value of AssaultCannon has been changed from Unknown to 2 The Damage value of EliteAssaultCannon has been changed from Unknown to 37 The Burst value of EliteAssaultCannon has been changed from Unknown to 2 The ROF value of EliteAssaultCannon has been changed from Unknown to 25 The Range value of EliteAssaultCannon has been changed from Unknown to 6 The Projectile value of EliteAssaultCannon has been changed from Unknown to Invisible The Speed value of EliteAssaultCannon has been changed from Unknown to 100 The Warhead value of EliteAssaultCannon has been changed from Unknown to SA The Report value of EliteAssaultCannon has been changed from Unknown to TSGUN4 The Damage value of Elite120mm has been changed from Unknown to 84 The ROF value of Elite120mm has been changed from Unknown to 80 The Range value of Elite120mm has been changed from Unknown to 8.1 The Projectile value of Elite120mm has been changed from Unknown to Invisible The Speed value of Elite120mm has been changed from Unknown to 90 The Warhead value of Elite120mm has been changed from Unknown to AP The Report value of Elite120mm has been changed from Unknown to 120MMF The Anim value of Elite120mm has been changed from Unknown to GUNFIRE The Bright value of Elite120mm has been changed from Unknown to yes The Damage value of EliteHoverMissile has been changed from Unknown to 36 The ROF value of EliteHoverMissile has been changed from Unknown to 68 The Range value of EliteHoverMissile has been changed from Unknown to 9.6 The Burst value of EliteHoverMissile has been changed from Unknown to 2 The Projectile value of EliteHoverMissile has been changed from Unknown to AAHeatSeeker2 The Speed value of EliteHoverMissile has been changed from Unknown to 30 The Warhead value of EliteHoverMissile has been changed from Unknown to AP The Report value of EliteHoverMissile has been changed from Unknown to HOVRMIS1 The MinimumRange value of EliteHoverMissile has been changed from Unknown to 2 The Damage value of EliteRaiderCannon has been changed from Unknown to 48 The Range value of EliteRaiderCannon has been changed from Unknown to 4.8 The Projectile value of EliteRaiderCannon has been changed from Unknown to Invisible The Speed value of EliteRaiderCannon has been changed from Unknown to 100 The Warhead value of EliteRaiderCannon has been changed from Unknown to SA The Report value of EliteRaiderCannon has been changed from Unknown to CHAINGN1 The Anim value of EliteRaiderCannon has been changed from Unknown to MGUN-N,MGUN-NE,MGUN-E,MGUN-SE,MGUN-S,MGUN-SW,MGUN-W,MGUN-NW The Damage value of EliteBikeMissile has been changed from Unknown to 48 The ROF value of EliteBikeMissile has been changed from Unknown to 60 The Range value of EliteBikeMissile has been changed from Unknown to 6 The Projectile value of EliteBikeMissile has been changed from Unknown to HeatSeeker The Speed value of EliteBikeMissile has been changed from Unknown to 30 The Report value of EliteBikeMissile has been changed from Unknown to MISL1 The Warhead value of EliteBikeMissile has been changed from Unknown to AP The Damage value of Elite155mm has been changed from Unknown to 180 The ROF value of Elite155mm has been changed from Unknown to 110 The MinimumRange value of Elite155mm has been changed from Unknown to 5.00 The Projectile value of Elite155mm has been changed from Unknown to Ballistic The Speed value of Elite155mm has been changed from Unknown to 10 The Warhead value of Elite155mm has been changed from Unknown to ARTYHE The Range value of Elite155mm has been changed from Unknown to 21.60 The Report value of Elite155mm has been changed from Unknown to 120MMF The Anim value of Elite155mm has been changed from Unknown to GUNFIRE The Lobber value of Elite155mm has been changed from Unknown to yes The Damage value of Elite90mm has been changed from Unknown to 43 The ROF value of Elite90mm has been changed from Unknown to 50 The Projectile value of Elite90mm has been changed from Unknown to Cannon The Speed value of Elite90mm has been changed from Unknown to 40 The Warhead value of Elite90mm has been changed from Unknown to AP The Range value of Elite90mm has been changed from Unknown to 8.1 The Report value of Elite90mm has been changed from Unknown to 120MMF The Anim value of Elite90mm has been changed from Unknown to GUNFIRE The Bright value of Elite90mm has been changed from Unknown to yes The Damage value of EliteDragon has been changed from Unknown to 36 The ROF value of EliteDragon has been changed from Unknown to 50 The Burst value of EliteDragon has been changed from Unknown to 2 The Range value of EliteDragon has been changed from Unknown to 7.2 The Projectile value of EliteDragon has been changed from Unknown to AAHeatSeeker2 The Speed value of EliteDragon has been changed from Unknown to 25 The Warhead value of EliteDragon has been changed from Unknown to AP The Report value of EliteDragon has been changed from Unknown to MISL1 The Damage value of EliteHarpyClaw has been changed from Unknown to 72 The ROF value of EliteHarpyClaw has been changed from Unknown to 36 The Range value of EliteHarpyClaw has been changed from Unknown to 5 The Projectile value of EliteHarpyClaw has been changed from Unknown to Invisible2 The Speed value of EliteHarpyClaw has been changed from Unknown to 100 The Warhead value of EliteHarpyClaw has been changed from Unknown to SA The Report value of EliteHarpyClaw has been changed from Unknown to CYGUN1 The Damage value of EliteProton has been changed from Unknown to 24 The ROF value of EliteProton has been changed from Unknown to 3 The Range value of EliteProton has been changed from Unknown to 5 The Projectile value of EliteProton has been changed from Unknown to ProtonTorpedo The Speed value of EliteProton has been changed from Unknown to 30 The Warhead value of EliteProton has been changed from Unknown to AP The Report value of EliteProton has been changed from Unknown to scrin5b The Speed value of CyCannon has been changed from 70 to 35 The Damage value of EliteCyCannon has been changed from Unknown to 180 The ROF value of EliteCyCannon has been changed from Unknown to 50 The Range value of EliteCyCannon has been changed from Unknown to 8.4 The Projectile value of EliteCyCannon has been changed from Unknown to ProtonBlast The Speed value of EliteCyCannon has been changed from Unknown to 35 The Warhead value of EliteCyCannon has been changed from Unknown to PlasmaWH The Report value of EliteCyCannon has been changed from Unknown to scrin5b The Damage value of EliteLtRail has been changed from Unknown to 0 The AmbientDamage value of EliteLtRail has been changed from Unknown to 180 The ROF value of EliteLtRail has been changed from Unknown to 60 The Range value of EliteLtRail has been changed from Unknown to 7.2 The Projectile value of EliteLtRail has been changed from Unknown to Invisible The Speed value of EliteLtRail has been changed from Unknown to 100 The Warhead value of EliteLtRail has been changed from Unknown to RailShot2 The Anim value of EliteLtRail has been changed from Unknown to GUNFIRE The IsRailgun value of EliteLtRail has been changed from Unknown to true The AttachedParticleSystem value of EliteLtRail has been changed from Unknown to SmallRailgunSys The Report value of EliteLtRail has been changed from Unknown to BIGGGUN1 The Damage value of EliteHellfire has been changed from Unknown to 36 The ROF value of EliteHellfire has been changed from Unknown to 50 The Range value of EliteHellfire has been changed from Unknown to 6 The Projectile value of EliteHellfire has been changed from Unknown to AAHeatSeeker2 The Speed value of EliteHellfire has been changed from Unknown to 30 The Warhead value of EliteHellfire has been changed from Unknown to ORCAAP The Report value of EliteHellfire has been changed from Unknown to ORCAMIS1 The Burst value of EliteHellfire has been changed from Unknown to 2 The Damage value of EliteBomb has been changed from Unknown to 192 The ROF value of EliteBomb has been changed from Unknown to 10 The Range value of EliteBomb has been changed from Unknown to 5 The Projectile value of EliteBomb has been changed from Unknown to Cannon2 The Speed value of EliteBomb has been changed from Unknown to 0 The Warhead value of EliteBomb has been changed from Unknown to ORCAHE The Floater value of EliteBomb has been changed from Unknown to yes The AmbientDamage value of EliteMechRailgun has been changed from Unknown to 300 The Damage value of EliteMechRailgun has been changed from Unknown to 0 The ROF value of EliteMechRailgun has been changed from Unknown to 60 The Range value of EliteMechRailgun has been changed from Unknown to 9.6 The Projectile value of EliteMechRailgun has been changed from Unknown to Invisible The Speed value of EliteMechRailgun has been changed from Unknown to 100 The Warhead value of EliteMechRailgun has been changed from Unknown to RailShot The Report value of EliteMechRailgun has been changed from Unknown to RAILUSE5 The Anim value of EliteMechRailgun has been changed from Unknown to GUNFIRE The IsRailgun value of EliteMechRailgun has been changed from Unknown to true The AttachedParticleSystem value of EliteMechRailgun has been changed from Unknown to LargeRailgunSys The Proximity value of ProtonBlast has been changed from yes to no The Ranged value of ProtonBlast has been changed from yes to no The Acceleration value of ProtonBlast has been changed from Unknown to 12 The Verses value of ORCAHE has been changed from 200%,90%,75%,32%,100% to 200%,90%,75%,32%,32% The Trainable value of SONIC has been changed from Unknown to no

exactly. how is excluding them working out for you guys?

Excellent map!!! BK you the Engineer,!,!.......The Man!! I bet I am the only one to have ever died on one of these...what a great first experience.

It would be helpful if the host could set the teams and the starts ?? the hassle is in the getting the room on the same page, at the same time. omg what a pain.

It's sure flattening the Tiberian Sun players online curve.

i think it is funny spread them out like anything titans, infantry, planes........i LLLlllloooovvvveeee bombing out 10 planes with a couple bombers, that a good time...!!! all DAY! and mike you jack me up with the regular borgs because you know how to use them, well >> they need to be stronger? or people should learn how to use them like you????? they mean, and sometimes you mean ...lol watch mike use his borgs he does it well I suspect it it a unbalance of the players strengths and weaknesses more than a unbalance of the units.

it is useful, we play random because it became to big of a hassle settling into teams every game.. everyone switching for hours... just from my past experience and the good players would pack up and no one wanted to play against them you know, not trying to start a fight, not to say you can't or won't, or shouldn't....... 'if we let 2 elite players select their teammates' if that fun for you nothing is stopping you!!! do it!!! just offering how and why we got here.....

ignore >>. the 'right people' ' ...? I was wanting to record team games, any chance of a spec seeing under nod's stealth as well?

Being able to see the other open games, esp by the host of, while in a game lobby would be great! It was mentioned before, and I remember something about it being excessive data or something. Could it be a 5 second peek at it? if it is too much. It would be helpful if the host of a game could see what other games are open...... Thanks!

Please share your old ones. you can zip them and post them or email them. Gray's is in that map pack download.

Cogito, ergo sum I ban you, that should make you feel special as far as your mod, I don't like it, that ain't no lie

it has been good for business, way more people join to play, when I put No Vet Mod up.......

You not being able to comprehend my point is not me not making it...let me try again in an empirical way. My units did not perform as they have for the last 20 years, mostly while playing nod, who has no titans.. and I did not care for the mod . have fun with what you like. and like I told you the other day, don't let the door hit you on the way out......

No matter how well you think Pence plays, I think you are wrong about a great many things

So you don't lose face in front of your guys, you can tell them the reason I kick you is that you win......

what an individual thinks is fair is subjective, which choice is the most voted for in a poll is math. That's what polls are for. To record the opinion of the other people with subjective thinking, about a specific thing. not some other thing. in your example quoted...... whether or not you think the most voted for thing is fair , it got the most votes. and one might infer from that tha... what you think is fair is not what most people think is fair. Deja Vue!

>>>How many nicks should you be allowed to have in the ladder? I should only have 1, i had to vote that way, you are right..the fix was in on it for sure

what i really don't like is the thought of not having a choice, especially when i can have a choice someone making me, especially someone with no standing to....especially when it can be both ways...... is awfully unbearable. that is what i don't like, .....what I will back up my comments with ...if you need a articulated reason.....

we should, and I gladly will, allow for their mods for any who choose to play them

I have 20 years experience with the current mechanics/balance of the game. any change would rob me of that. and we can have both right ?

I need the protein. You like classical music right? no matter how perfect, beautiful, ect. whatever your reasons for you liking it? some just don't. right? it is subjective, and i am not you. i have my own tastes now listen to it,, if you like just don't make every map on ts classical we have other tastes and I am saying some maps on the ladder without those changes and the client without those changes. and my games without those changes. your games how you like them, just don't force it on me, no matter your reasons. no matter how much better you think it is how often in the history of mankind has this played out? I think it is for your own good it is better, you just don't see it..., no, I have free will and I like something different. that is what you are up against I CRY OUT!!! >>> you will have to pry the stock, un-Vet Balanced Tiberian Sun out of my cold dead hands. and I am saying some maps on the ladder without those changes and the client without those changes, and my games without those changes yours, as you like it, mine as I like it. feel free to play your (let me walk you through this. fixed >>= changed >>= modified>>=) mod maps, just don't make me play your mod maps, I don't like them. i guess until you can understand that I appreciate your maps, but..... your ''fixes' are still changes, and they are not to my taste. we will go round and round.

yep, that's me, stupid........ it's a set of changes (modifications) that I just don't like, but wait it's the gift that keeps on giving.. I like TS as it is without those. let me double down on my stupid. no matter what map has been vet balanced(modded, changed balanced altered,fixed), I just don't like the changes it makes. you missing that.. so again feel free to play your (let me walk you through this. fixed>> changed >> modified>>) mod maps, just don't make me play your mod maps, I don't like them.