Feature request : spy timelimit

[cypher]

I think spy's are very imbalanced, because they give such a huge advantage (talking about barracks and warfactories) the whole game.

Is there a possibility to make spy-effects timebound, like 5 minutes free promotions for units and then normal units again?

Or - make a button to provide spys to both parties?

[ᅚᅚᅚ]

NO PLEASE DON'T ADD THAT! 

Leave the game as it was.

Those are the original Multiplayer Dialog settings for yuri's revenge

 And I realized that you didn't add them all -Why?-  Like ShadowGrow,TiberiumGrows,FogOfWar,Shroud,HarvesterTruce,Bases,CaptureTheFlag,TechLevel,AIDifficulty,MoneyIncrement

Please add those settings to the game again, because they are originally part of yuri's revenge.

[MultiplayerDialogSettings]
MinMoney=5000
Money=10000
MaxMoney=10000
MoneyIncrement=100
MinUnitCount=0
UnitCount=10
MaxUnitCount=10
TechLevel=10
GameSpeed=1
AIDifficulty=0
AIPlayers=0
BridgeDestruction=yes
ShadowGrow=no
Shroud=yes
Bases=yes
TiberiumGrows=yes
Crates=yes
CaptureTheFlag=no
HarvesterTruce=no
MultiEngineer=no
AlliesAllowed=no
ShortGame=yes
FogOfWar=no
MCVRedeploys=yes
AllyChangeAllowed=yes

 

Thank You.

Edited October 25, 2018 by ᅚᅚᅚ

[McPwny]

the first one no not at all possible. the second would be relatively easy to put into a map via ini editing.

[[CC] RaVaGe]

Instead you can control what bonuses veterancy gives to units.

[ᅚᅚᅚ]

What about those multiplayer Dialog settings? They are part of the game, Why not adding them?

ShadowGrow,TiberiumGrows,FogOfWar,Shroud,HarvesterTruce,Bases,CaptureTheFlag,TechLevel,AIDifficulty,MoneyIncrement

Please add them, the game should be as it was.

Edited October 26, 2018 by ᅚᅚᅚ

[ZAIN]

Maybe your post can encourage so called allied players to actually start making spies, because it really is a powerful unit  

[XXxPrePxX]

In 1on1 matches, spies are balanced. 1on1 matches don't go on for too long, and the spies are part of the special dynamic of sovs vs. allies.

 

However, in these 6/8 player FFG's these days, spies are pretty annoying/imbalanced. The problem is, the allied players immediately take advantage of the lesser skilled opposing player, spy the shit out of him, and all the sudden have 10 minutes to sit in their base creating veteran units while you try to overcome it. 

I don't think there is a way to correctly balance it without ruining parts of the game, it is what it is. 

[ᅚᅚᅚ]

Why do you keep my posts which are about the multiplayer dialog settings hidden?

Please at least explain to me on a private message why you didn't add them all.

 

Edited October 26, 2018 by ᅚᅚᅚ

[cypher]

u name it prep!

Most of the times I play FFA's on large maps and I see exactly the behaviour you mentioned. I thought a time limit could be a good walkaround, so you don't have disadvantages in relative short 1on1s and still don't have the game destroyed for longer FFAs.

Maybe the shortest and best walkaround for me personally is to change the unit stats via ini edit, as mcpwny mentioned.

But I think this is a general issue, depending on the game mode.

[XXxPrePxX]

I think it'd be kinda nice to play FFG's without spies. 

Having an option to turn spys off would solve this real quick. I'd bet a lot of hosts would use it too. Problem usually occurs on sedona pass, Hammer and Sickle,or the infinite money maps. It really ruins the game and all it takes is one person to exploit it out of the 6 or 8 players. 

[Ra2Nub]

Would be a cool setting for cncnet to add. Spy on/off. 

[[CC] RaVaGe]

Maybe people should stop playing the infinite money maps then?

[cypher]

Yeah a spy button would be nice. I just did a new version of my map as a workaround, ty mcpwny for inspiration.

Edited October 26, 2018 by dirtybob

[FlyingMustache]

On 10/26/2018 at 3:03 PM, cypher said:

Yeah a spy button would be nice. I just did a new version of my map as a workaround, ty mcpwny for inspiration.

Just edit the map you play on. In my mod, I made the barracks and wf immune to spies, but I reduced their cost to 800 to compensate.