Hungry Mike

How about starting a "TS league"? My proposal (feel free to change it in the ways you like ) We could make the results public on a table here in the forum or with Blues help on his side. We can start with a certain amount of players and then get more, which can join even when there are match days already gone. The matches per "match day" dont have to be decided simultaneously in time, we can say that all matches have to be fought out in a period of 7-9 days. In any game there has to be one (trusted) spec as witness, who records the game, so we have proof on youtube or other platforms; or 3 (trusted) witness specs with their "testimony" xD. Each match day should have one map only and it should be 1vs1 and best of 3. Maps change with the match days; non-mod and mod maps are in the mix, so we can bring the Evangelium of TS (and Kane) to newcomers and bring TS to the next generations. We can integrate 2vs2 match days as well, if people are smart enough to get their partners before. If someone misses the games, he loses (its only 3 points so even if he has a reason, it doesnt matter). The basic rules should be: Multi fac off, short game on, bridges destroyable, no crates, multi engi on, firestorm off, no moveable mcv, no ally built, shared control possable. Mcv change allowed, pretending to be an ally, harvs and engies allowed. On Giants and some other mod maps no building past middle, engies and harvs. "Washes" in 2vs2 games, if no of the fighting players rejects the concept before the game for all games. No bug usage, no cheats. Bug usage is: - Lag (if someone lags in the game and gets benefit from it, he has to correct it by selling stuff etc. in return; the other player can benefit from it of course. If specs lag, both players have to correct bonuses they get from the lag and the spec has to leave. If its not clear who lags, spec has to leave and control ping. If lag makes game unplayable, the game is lost for the lagger.) If a game takes longer than 2 hours or noone can win, its a draw. If short game is on, that also includes the foreseable missing ability to win within the 2 hours (= if someone has stealth tanks he then gets a draw). - Sub moves away from map bug (happens, if it gets empted sometimes: then bug has to be corrected, eventually game has to restart) - Nuke bug (perfect aim, but mcv gets only 50 % or less health away - has to be proven by the player after game, who claims it; if so, restart game, if without bug he had a realistic chance of winning) - Sub entrance and sub underground kill bug (if sub is underground and bombers/bans get sub anyway; or if units despite orders dont go in sub). - Unit order bug (If you say X and units do N(X). Only with proof and realistic chance of winning without bug can game be restarted). - Fake noob name usage or false noob proclamation (game is lost) - False accusation of bug usage (game is lost) and so on. If there was a bug, you can claim it here in the forum and there will be a vote or some wise members (like Nme) will decide the case. With the match days passing by, one rule can be changed for the match day by decleration (to make it more freaky: we can make short game on or firestorm on XD or use lower tech levels for instance). A win gives 3 points, a loss 0, a draw 1. We could start in the new year. Maybe with Terrace 1vs1? Tell me, what you think Your - as you can see - greedy "VP"

Yeah, a nice addition to the map pool. More, more, more! ;D

Lol the name fits the map. My engineers need to go to a doctor, when they are in this map!

Whoever this guy is, he has some serious problems. He has a very big mouth, i see, but when i challenged him to 1vs1 on WW maps, he RAN. And i am only middle class (= noob for the elite). I find these maps very fun, and thats it: We are playing to have fun. If you want to prove your intelligence, thats fine; but it would be better, you prove it in real life competition.

You didnt say no engi before the concrete game. In GSO, normally engies are allowed. Then you rage quitted and banned me from your game, but you already lost the game. I dont see a reason why a typical apc engi rush should be forbidden on GSO.

I dont like getting 3 noobs in 3 games in a row: I can play how i want and i lose. If you have noobs, either split them (select spots) or kick them. It cant be too hard for grown adults to select one of 8 numbers (1-8).

Hi Myth Your channel looks great But you know, that you should make clear to your opponents before the game, that you arent a noob. I didnt play with you yet, but: If you use fake noob name to get bonus in game, you break rules and lose the game. I dont know whether that happened within your games, but it happened with others. Depends on which other names you have and who you are, too. Just make sure, it is fair! Best wishes, Your VP

Sounds good :D. Nice job! But i dont like clans and all that stuff. Too much background noise, which distracts you from the game. And if someone doesnt like clans, he wont be included in this system. My suggestion: Maybe a "TS league" and/or a "TS Cup" would be fun? You would get many of the newer Elite (Nme, Black, Hitman) and older Elite (Corpsmaker, TopRush, Tiger - maybe some time in the future Zenetusken ;)) to engage, as well as the middle class and maybe some noobs. You could draw the matches for each week/2 weeks, and schedule the date, where they both can play. Any game should be recorded and put up on Youtube for verification; or you could consider it to be sufficient, when both players agree on the end result. It should be best of 3 - more games would take too much time, less would be not enough to judge who was better. A win gives you 3 points, a draw (only possible with short game games/too long games) gives 1. We can implement team games, as well. The maps, which are played, should change by coincidence; and there should be Terr, FF, GSO, Giants, Small Ville, Throwback, Area 51, and so on in the mix, so anyone has fun. You could make instead of a 20 player league make 4 or 5 groups with 4 players, and the best 2 get to the final "KO" stages, like in the World Cup. No matter, what you will chose (a league, a clan system): You should make the rules very clear and transparent. I suggest: - No lag usage (which doesnt necessarily mean you lag; but you use the lag of another guy to get bonus and dont correct it, knowing of the adventage) -> Penalty: Correct unfair adventage (when lag while attack was going on and that prevented your opponent from getting buildings = sell buildings and dont use the $ you got by selling them); if rule breaker refuses to eliminate his bonus -> game lost - No cheats or bug usage (capturing harvs with men sourrinding him for example, or aircraft comming from opposite base, or subs being already underground and still getting killed or units dont attack despite 10 orders) -> If its a cheat (hoppefuly, noone will cheat tho) -> game lost and disqualified from league; -> if its a bug usage: give back the bonus you got from the bug: For example, when you see you didnt lose a building only because of a bug, sell it and dont use the money you got from -> if rule breaker refuses -> game lost; if the bug cant be corrected and is important for the game outcome -> re the game if the bug is plattently unfair and someone uses the bug on purpose to get a bonus -> game lost (for example: Capturing harvs with men sourrounding him) - No harv scout or attack (which includes attacking harvs on purpose)/building past middle/no engi on Giants -> game lost - No advice from spectators -> game doesnt count, spectator loses points/gets kicked out - No time trolling (letting someone sit for 30 minutes until attack) -> draw - No false claim of rule breaking -> game lost - No team selecting by colour usage -> game lost - No trojan horse usage (putting noobs in opponents team or guys play for the other team) -> game lost or, if guy on other team was a fake trojan horse (he just did it for the rule break win) -> re game and disqualify trojan horse (teamkilling after game win is already secured is "legal" tho :D) About the game settings: We should mostly use the common game settings, but change it sometimes for fun. - Short game (can be changed occasionally for example) - Multiple Fac off (can be changed occasionally, if aircraft is not allowed in game) - Multi engi (can be changed occasionally, if you want the feeling of TD back ;D ) - Firestorm off (can be changed occasionally on maps like Smallville, to use hungry Reapers and Joggernaughts :D) - Team build off (can be fun on Terr or GSO tho) - Tech level 10 (can be reduced occasionally on maps with short distance) So thats my advice, what do you think, Blue? Should it be clans only or a league for all? Which rules should apply? Thx for your work and time, your humble VP

Lol. Can you believe there are people, who say, Kane isnt the Messiah? I find that offensive too ;). GDI IS EVIL! VOTE FOR KANE 2020! #PEACETROUGHPOWER

Is this a joke?

Statistics say more people play RA1. Add to that the TD player count, as well.

GDI propaganda . You are in love, too ;D. You said: You even claimed they only make it for $: But when they make a RA2 remake, they make it for the love of their neighbors? Give me a break :P. The current CncNet statistics show that more people play RA1 than RA2, with TD players not even mentioned. So: How can RA2 be the most popular game, when more people play RA1 (or RA1+TD)? Why do all people mention the TD, RA1 or TS campaign, but not few the RA2 campaign? Why do many remember TD, but not RA2? TD was a milestone, just a unbelievably good game, and had it a better multiplayer (only played the campaign as a kid), more people would play it today. So: To say it would be a big mistake or even unjust for EA to make a TD remake is not very smart: Without TD, no RA2.

Completely false. RA2 lacks substance, style and quality. In its best days, way more people played TD or RA1 than RA2. Ra2 is mostly unit rushing, just like his predecessor. The graphics make it feel like a comic (with bad quality tho), and although some units are a good idea (the Kirovs), its still extremely tank based. Most of RA2 players complain about Yuri, because Yuri is extremely unbalanced. Allies players have to bunker until they have battlefortresses, the only good unit they have. So although RA2 is fun, it has many flaws. You cant compare it to TD. TD has graphics, which make it realistic and gives a feeling of neutral, realistic, 1990s flair to it. You can still be a 1-button-player (tanks for GDI), but it wont be good enough. You have to micro much better, there are many different strategies, GDI and Nod have their own unique ways, and so on. Just unit spam for its own wont solve problems (only if you are a 20-year-constistent-playing-nerd...) and you have so many different maps, which force you to use different strats. The campaign is superb, very interesting and with good actors and was the mother of all in-game-videos. TD was the mother of all C&C games and one of the fathers of real time strategy games. So: TD wins! And for the record: You RA2 guys got your remake with RA3: Where is the difference, its just more chaotic and childly :P.

Biggest two bugs: a) Dumb harvs b) Lag Other bugs: c) 20 inf sourround a sub with 2 engies in, they have to walk atleast 4 steps, and still dont get killed (i mean, we arent in TD here ;)) d) Sub is underground, still gets shot e) Sub gets order to X and does N(X) and so on. If you depend on exact work, you are helpless with these fools called units. They are moving like Battlefield noobs!

GDI propaganda ?

Lol. This is the first time, i have to disagree with you Kike ;D. TD is a wonderful game, so is TS. There would be no RA2 without TD. It was the first CC game. It has many bugs (harvs!!!!!!!!, dc!!!!!!!) and as with AoE I, you would bring a big audience back to this wonderful game. It is a sin to say EA did a mistake here. In my opinion, TD and TS are better than RA2 (altough i love the kirovs ;D). After TD, they should make a TS remake, because TS has so big potential and they could easily make it better by giving people more choices and getting a better balance. AND PLEASE EA: GIVE YOUR CYBORGS THE VOICE OF ARNOLD! YOU WOULD ONLY MAKE $ WITH THAT, BELIEVE ME! But i ahve to say, after that, they should make a RA2 remake as well; with even hungrier Kirovs -

Sounds great! But who will select the maps? What is with lag usage? Should specs be on the games to record them neutraly? I for my part dont think putting money in is a good idea. Lets just play for the honor! When will that tournament be hold? And: Wouldnt it be better to make a regular "TS league"?

Well, i can understand your opinion, given the fact, that you lose on Giants 95 % to MP :D. I dont think so tho. Black is superb on WW maps, too.

Who would be the best partner for Black? Maybe Steelcore or Nme on WW maps? Maybe Firestar on mod maps?

Sounds good, i am ready to spec that one! You would need to exchange the $ tho, and that would require non-privacy. I doubt he wants to do that. I guess the normal rules would apply (no multi fac, no firestorm, ...) - what about short game tho? On or off? What about some crazy situations, when both of you cant die (= draw)? What about bugs in game (lag usage for instance)? You both should have the right to chose 3 maps, the 7th map should be chosen by you both i guess? I hope that this will happen, would be awesome :D.

Black would win against everyone in this list 1vs1 on terr, but on any other map as well. Trz, Steel, Nme, Tiger, Toprush, Humble are all ez for Black ;). But we should find out, maybe you play him 1vs1 (Best of 3), so we are all smarter after that :D. And dont insult Giants: We all know the Mod Elite like Momo, Homie, MikePence and MrFirestar would be too hard for your disses :). Am i wrong? Then come and show us how strong you are on Giants ;P.

Mox, thx for your list. But i have to disagree with your explanation: Nme, Steelcore and Corpsmaker are the only one flexible enough on this list for Mod maps, Tiger is ok on giants, but he has to improve to be mod elite ;D. Trz aka Hyena lost against Mike Pence in multiple mod games (team games in GSO and Giants with good teams), then got angry and ran. So if that is your explanation of your list, i would put them all to the lower ranks. From all these players Nme would be the best for mod maps from my experience; so he would get a middlefield place on your list. But i have to critizice one thing: Why is Black not Nr. 1 or 2 on your list? He would eat all others like cake - not only on Terr, but on FF, Desolation, Great Canyon, the other WW maps, Dueling Islands, Giants, GSO, BBG, Smallville, Carnage, Conflict. .

If he breaks rules, he loses immediately. Its like when you play on an ESports game live and do it: You would lose the game there, too. Dont use such things to get a bonus! Its the same as using cheats, bugs or brake rules in maps like giants: You lose immediately. Btw: WeaponX engied me in Giants (with 4vs3!), because i was TOO STRONG (:P) and then empted me. Sadly, i said: Goodbye, thx for the win (rule braking), and left. Black is right on this one.

Haha, "me and mike are equal on ww map" = Not on mod maps ;P. We all know that Mike Pence is a butcher on Giants or GSO ;). But yeah, you should be on the list, too, i know who you are, and sources told me, you even are wise enough to use Arnolds now too

I doubt you know who Bach actually is :P. Its time for my Arnold Hordes to mow down your gdi infidels on GSO again! #Kanelives