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I understand the concept behind this, but i think its a bad idea.. Depending on what faction you are playing against determines how and where you build right from the start, this can make all the difference. Especially against Yuri.

Yea i set it live? Wasnt i supposed to? Ahh i see. Where are we on making the ladder public?

I think the issue that holds back qm will be the fact you have to register on the forum. Most wont do this, therefore wont be able to play qm. I also agree its time to take the ladder public. Im assuming you moved this topic and added the poll Grant which seems a waste of time, most dont and wont bother posting/voting especially untill it goes public.

I had considered Roundhouse kick the bonus map to be fair. Dune patrol probably does favour sovs yea but theres allied and Yuri maps there aswell mayday/depth/SV. CS is fine for all 3 factions imo its probably the most tried and tested map i know. I fail to see how its unbalanced for allies on YR.

Map List For January QM Please post your thought's/suggestion's, mention what you do like or what you dont. At current we are only allowed 18 maps and a bonus map which switches every week, please suggest which map would you like to change next week and what map you would like to replace it with. Map Allied Soviet Yuri Dune Patrol * * * Offense Defense * * * Dry Heat * * * Heartland * * * Montana DMZ * * * Country Swing * * * No Wimps * * * Dustbowl * * * Hidden Valley * * * Divide and Conquer * * * Snow Valley * * Mirror Official Tournament Map B * * Mirror Jungle Of Vietnam * * Mirror Tour of Egypt * * Mirror May Day * * Mirror Depth Charge * * Mirror Roundhouse Kick * * Mirror Death Valley Girl * * Mirror Stormy Weather * * Mirror Yin-Yang * * Mirror Also if anyone is interested in doing so feel free to suggest map lists for future months.

looks interesting would like to give it a try.

Players can no longer deposit money in thier allies refinery. Also engineers can no longer remove ivan bombs from structures/units.

Ill be doing Januarys maps. And No. Itll be a mix Of YR and some Ra2 maps.

Would rather show you than explain, its not that commonly known and probably better it stays that way.

Land rush unit start gives tanks/infantry supposed to be dogs. Snow Valley map errors every time. Sometimes while games are loading a player will not have thier colour on the minimap preview, even though they load fine, when this happens said player will have a black screen upon game start and no mcv. Also if you join a game then afterwards make a game your in game settings change to match whatever the last host you joined had set. Pretty annoying when you dont notice it. Standard tunnel server for EU seems to give most players unknown ping. Then only the host loads. Allied miner vs brute bug could use a patch.

Josh doesnt want it on cncnet. Hes not happy we have his other maps here either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOdmRpa38K4

Maps like yours are fine, hes talking about maps like that version of hammer and sickle that spot 1 has 10 mcvs outside the map and unlimited cash etc. Also dont worry about being called a cheater if your better than opponents its happened for years.I used to argue about it years ago but nowadays I try to explain basic bo's etc to help these folk. P.S Ive only played one or two but i liked your map's

Im in Cape Verde on holiday so if need be replace me. If not im back friday so would be available at the weekend.

People these days cry everything is lame. A few weeks ago some guy drove his mcv past my drone and called me lame for droning him. I've been called lame for using ivan, drones,v3 and boris lol, basically anything that isn't a complete rhino spam. I kinda get what your saying Ronnie as in that case EvB is over and I wouldn't do it in a ffg with friends, however if it was 3v3 cm or something then dont see why not.

I had the exact same thing done to me on hammer about 6 months ago, if you open the map in final alert they have like 20 mcvs outside the map aswell.

I support Random supers(dependent on map/faction)Multi engi is imo a terrible idea if you cant deal with 1 engi go play custom match or ra1. Destroyable bridges bieng random seems pointless.

I disagree with this. I think the random supers factor made the game much more interesting and competitive, with random supers it would depend on the map and situation to try and tech up. With supers always on It's just a race for the IC.

You normally play ra2 so not sure why your debating how to play on YR Now I'm not claiming to be a strong allied player, but I've played long enough to know enough.. like you said earlier I'm just saying what works in my experience. From a sov perspective on YR if an allied enemy's techs they have much more chance of winning against me. I do agree there is a 4-5 minute window where they are vulnerable once they tech. I agree it depends on the situation but I find it difficult to think of a map where an allied player could multi war without a lab and be successful on YR. Grizzly just don't hold up like in ra2. I think you are underestimating the difference between RA2/YR. Grizzly don't build faster here so you have even less plastic tanks than usual. Ask Marsh or tej they are probably at ur level if not better than you with allies? like I said we did loads of games on YR QM for a long time and mass war without lab as allies doesn't work vs a good Soviet on YR. It's been a common mistake by Ra2 players on YR for years.

This is why I like the idea of random supers for AvA, SvA and SvS in qm. I think it would be a nice option for ffg's aswell. XWIS qm had a function in these scenarios so that you didn't know if supers where on untill you built your battle lab. I agree with you late game sovs are just as powerful as allies if used correctly. A large enough army of siege can take on any army in the game.

lies. it takes 2 shots to kill 1 deso on YR with a mirage. thats 4 shots before i can press 'd' good luck lol

If u justin or marsh goes mutli war vs me as allies rather than tech i will run through you, i will have as many tanks and mine are almost x2 as strong. i have no doubts about this whatsoever. When Marsh first came to YR we did a lot of qm's we would play both Ra2 and YR. He would ussually win the series ra2 and me on YR. He played YR like it was ra2 mass grizz/mass war etc, he failed time and time against me untill he learnt to adapt and tech first. The best Allied players i knew on YR always teched first. Most didnt even have to make a 2nd warfac. (e.g. dean/brett).

Xe3 is clearly a troll with limited to no understanding of the game. If u can kill 2 of my deso with 1 mirage I'll pay you £500.

I Think this is very good advice for ra2. But mass war as allies vs Soviet is a disaster on YR. Grizzly don't produce faster like ra2 and a sov will roll through you even if they teched for IC on 1 war. On YR you should always tech asap vs Sov imo.

The alamo is possibly one of the most imbalanced maps in the game. Whoever gets the bottom right oil should win as it produces cash faster than a normal oil. How you can claim maps like CS, DMZ and Dune are bad maps im not sure. Im guessing your an ra2 player?